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Thread: HOW TO? Higher Physiological Testosterone Levels

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    Question HOW TO? Higher Physiological Testosterone Levels

    Good day,

    I am 32 y.o., training for 5-6 years, as natural, around 14% BF, and I am strongly evaluating to go through a TRT,
    reasons are I always feel somehow depress for no reason, easy to irritate and somehow anxious, also sometimes during the day I feel fatigue I cannot even focus at work, a kind of brain fog or loss of clarity, a kind of ďdrunk feelingĒ mixed with feeling light and fatigued I might even get fired sometimes because of that, and I am worried for the financial and quality of life in general.
    My private life also is at risk as my wife think I am not attracted to her or I donít love her because of my low libido and being tired/lethargic most of the time.
    10 years ago I wasnít like this and I felt way more condifent.

    I sleep around 7h/night, eat well 80%-90% of the times hitting my macros with pro/car/fat and being also on surplus on calories often, no alcohol, no smoke.

    I have done blood and complete hormonal tests and results are ok and testosterone results are always between 390 to 500.

    The only reason that stopped me to proceed on TRT until now and holding me back is that I have been worried for hair loss sides from it, my dad and my brother lost them with age, I probably got my hair genes more from my mom side, my brother lost them almost everything already by age 25, and me at 32 I still have them, but they are very thin and if I cut them short, just to give you the idea, you can somehow see my scalp easily. I got 2% ketoconazole shampoo and also have finasteride 1mg capsule to take 1/day but still didnít use it as I am afraid of the sides (even worst libido, mood and much more sides), plus they donít even can guaranteed that my hairs will last.

    I would love to start with TRT and bring Testosterone up from 390-500 that I have now to 900-1200 to stay in the higher physiological range without the sides of estrogen and so on,
    how can I achieve that and stay there 365days/year? Sides, risks?
    Do I have to PCT or just weekly inject forever? 1 time or 2 times per week?
    Suggested dosage to start with?
    Are my balls going to "disappear/shrink" and how can I prevent that?
    Any other advice?

    Note that doctors here wonít put you on TRT even if you have symptoms like me if you are in the lower end range of it, for them you are still okay.

    Thanks a lot for your help,
    Looking forward for your reply and suggestions

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    Iím kind of like you. My levels were much lower when I went on TRT but I also felt like I was dying at that lower level. Docs put me 400-600 and I still felt awful. I didnít feel better till I was in the 1000-1200 range. Basically, I felt at 1000 what most men feel at 500-600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christmas View Post
    Iím kind of like you. My levels were much lower when I went on TRT but I also felt like I was dying at that lower level. Docs put me 400-600 and I still felt awful. I didnít feel better till I was in the 1000-1200 range. Basically, I felt at 1000 what most men feel at 500-600.
    So you feel me! Its terrible. You have some "sparks of vitality" sometimes but most of the time it suck, right?
    What do you actually use at this moment and for how long? Also, how old are you?
    Did you had balls shrinkage/estrogen problem/hair problem/ or any side?
    Thanks bro for sharing!

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    Iím 33. My levels crashed at 30. I had never taken any type of drug or enhancement before, not even testosterone. Mine crashed due to a genetic abnormality that halted testicular function.
    I started at 200mg/week, which was ok with my first doc, but when I moved it was difficult finding a doc because a) most donít want to go above 150mg/week, irrespective of its effect on your blood levels, b) most donít want to go above 500 blood levels, fearing doing so will either give you cancer (actually prevents it) or makes them look like they are doping their patients (there is a real fear of this due to insurance restrictions).
    I did find one, but due to needing above average levels to feel normal, buy backups for times you donít have one.

    For your case, either find a doc or pa, or (not recommended) cycle and donít use a pct, which will crash your levels, but your blood levels will be low enough to get treated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christmas View Post
    Iím 33. My levels crashed at 30. I had never taken any type of drug or enhancement before, not even testosterone. Mine crashed due to a genetic abnormality that halted testicular function.
    I started at 200mg/week, which was ok with my first doc, but when I moved it was difficult finding a doc because a) most donít want to go above 150mg/week, irrespective of its effect on your blood levels, b) most donít want to go above 500 blood levels, fearing doing so will either give you cancer (actually prevents it) or makes them look like they are doping their patients (there is a real fear of this due to insurance restrictions).
    I did find one, but due to needing above average levels to feel normal, buy backups for times you donít have one.

    For your case, either find a doc or pa, or (not recommended) cycle and donít use a pct, which will crash your levels, but your blood levels will be low enough to get treated.
    Do you use anything else? Like to prevent sides (Aromatase inhibitor) or anything aside of the testosterone? Is it Enanthate or Cypionate or Propionate testosterone?
    Last edited by Davide; 10-19-2019 at 06:56 PM.

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    You should really talk to you endocrinologist about your results and how you feel before self-prescribing TRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davide View Post
    Do you use anything else? Like to prevent sides (Aromatase inhibitor) or anything aside of the testosterone? Is it Enanthate or Cypionate or Propionate testosterone?
    Per the doc. AI can carry side effects in the long term. Enanthate and Cypionate are basically the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P0N View Post
    You should really talk to you endocrinologist about your results and how you feel before self-prescribing TRT.
    This is essential if your country labels testosterone as a controlled substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P0N View Post
    You should really talk to you endocrinologist about your results and how you feel before self-prescribing TRT.
    I agree with this as well. There are possibly other factors contributing to symptoms as well given your test levels arent really that low. A good endocrinologist should be able to figure this out for you

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