Planning my 3rd cycle

[LupineMind]

Been off for about a year. My last two cycles were fairly simple but were run under the guidance of a friend. Unfortunately something or the other always happened, not having a compound on hand and late delivery to injuries, so this time around I am planning everything in advance (not that I plan an injury but okay lol).
My last cycle was a Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar cycle. Ran fairly low to moderate dosages and got really good results. Didn't get any bad effects from running Tren Ace (except bad temper) @50mgs x EOD till I bumped it up to 75 when the trensomnia and acne kicked in.
Since it worked for me I was thinking of running the same with a few changes.

• I was wondering if a moderate dosage of Eq can be introduced through the cycle, maybe?
• SARMs wise, I was thinking of introducing Mk-677(25mgs x ED) and GW-501516 (20mgs x ED).
• I have Letro on hand of signs of gyno show up(haven't even once yet, even when I had a bad PCT on the last cycle)
• Standard PCT. Nolva and clomid with Mk - 677 and GW-501516 continuing from the cycle into PCT.
• I might run clen for the last 3 weeks if the need be.

Questions
1. Running Mk-677 during a cutting cycle.
2. Can RD-140 be used to kickstart PCT instead of HCG?

 

[EZ_E]

You can add or take away anything, that doesn't mean you should. Depends on your stats & goals.

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[DylanGemelli]

Been off for about a year. My last two cycles were fairly simple but were run under the guidance of a friend. Unfortunately something or the other always happened, not having a compound on hand and late delivery to injuries, so this time around I am planning everything in advance (not that I plan an injury but okay lol).
My last cycle was a Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar cycle. Ran fairly low to moderate dosages and got really good results. Didn't get any bad effects from running Tren Ace (except bad temper) @50mgs x EOD till I bumped it up to 75 when the trensomnia and acne kicked in.
Since it worked for me I was thinking of running the same with a few changes.

• I was wondering if a moderate dosage of Eq can be introduced through the cycle, maybe?
• SARMs wise, I was thinking of introducing Mk-677(25mgs x ED) and GW-501516 (20mgs x ED).
• I have Letro on hand of signs of gyno show up(haven't even once yet, even when I had a bad PCT on the last cycle)
• Standard PCT. Nolva and clomid with Mk - 677 and GW-501516 continuing from the cycle into PCT.
• I might run clen for the last 3 weeks if the need be.

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Questions
1. Running Mk-677 during a cutting cycle.
2. Can RD-140 be used to kickstart PCT instead of HCG?

hey bro... i really like everything you were going with until you got to clen... that needs to be dropped out of your mind immediately... there is no point in running something so dangerous and flat out dirty and disgusting... its a very very dirty drug... its also extremely harmful and not recommended whatsoever... what i do recommend is perhaps adding sr9009 or s4 for the cutting portion... brother, nothing is going to replace hcg whatsoever but RAD would be a bad ass add on this cycle... fuck the anavar? why run that pussy ass steroid? you dont need it in here whatsoever... what is your body fat? let me know and i'll set this all up properly for you...

 

[Testdude63]

Drop the clen, up the eq to 300mg 2x (600mg/wk) and I think you'll be good.

 

[EZ_E]

I missed the clen bullet point.....agree with all to drop it.

The right nutrition protocol will benefit you way more for fat loss and health wise than the clen will.

 

[RickRock]

Been off for about a year. My last two cycles were fairly simple but were run under the guidance of a friend. Unfortunately something or the other always happened, not having a compound on hand and late delivery to injuries, so this time around I am planning everything in advance (not that I plan an injury but okay lol).
My last cycle was a Test Prop, Tren Ace, Anavar cycle. Ran fairly low to moderate dosages and got really good results. Didn't get any bad effects from running Tren Ace (except bad temper) @50mgs x EOD till I bumped it up to 75 when the trensomnia and acne kicked in.
Since it worked for me I was thinking of running the same with a few changes.

• I was wondering if a moderate dosage of Eq can be introduced through the cycle, maybe?
• SARMs wise, I was thinking of introducing Mk-677(25mgs x ED) and GW-501516 (20mgs x ED).
• I have Letro on hand of signs of gyno show up(haven't even once yet, even when I had a bad PCT on the last cycle)
• Standard PCT. Nolva and clomid with Mk - 677 and GW-501516 continuing from the cycle into PCT.
• I might run clen for the last 3 weeks if the need be.

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Questions
1. Running Mk-677 during a cutting cycle.
2. Can RD-140 be used to kickstart PCT instead of HCG?

Unless you are going to run 16 weeks. You don't want to bother with EQ. Also, Clen shouldn't be used at all. I'd leave that out. MK-677 can definitely be used during your cut. It helps tremendously with body composition. I'd also strongly suggest adding S4 and SR9009 to the GW and MK-677 you are already running as well.

Rad-140 is not even close to doing what HCG is, and I'm not sure what your thinking is with that. It's a great cycle add on but does nothing to help your recovery

 

[LupineMind]

hey bro... i really like everything you were going with until you got to clen... that needs to be dropped out of your mind immediately... there is no point in running something so dangerous and flat out dirty and disgusting... its a very very dirty drug... its also extremely harmful and not recommended whatsoever... what i do recommend is perhaps adding sr9009 or s4 for the cutting portion... brother, nothing is going to replace hcg whatsoever but RAD would be a bad ass add on this cycle... fuck the anavar? why run that pussy ass steroid? you dont need it in here whatsoever... what is your body fat? let me know and i'll set this all up properly for you...

Not using Anavar bruv that was on my last cycle. I am wary of orals so I went with something that wasn't that potent. Not exactly a huge fan of orals. I was thinking of putting Clen because I got my hands on some of the purest and strongest Clen's I've seen around. So though why not drop it in at the end of the cycle.

Currently I sit at around 16% give or take a % or 2, round abouts that anyway @210lbs this morning. I plan on dropping down to at least 15% before even touching anything. Hence the planning it out. I don't want to run into not having something or something I could have done better later on. I want to have it as strategically planned out as I can. Once I drop to 14%-15%, I'll start with the cycle not before.

I saw the video on first time cycle. Awesome stuff, I missed on a few things for my first two cycles that I am going to incorporate in this one. Going to do this one right.

Drop the clen, up the eq to 300mg 2x (600mg/wk) and I think you'll be good.

Cheers

Unless you are going to run 16 weeks. You don't want to bother with EQ. Also, Clen shouldn't be used at all. I'd leave that out. MK-677 can definitely be used during your cut. It helps tremendously with body composition. I'd also strongly suggest adding S4 and SR9009 to the GW and MK-677 you are already running as well.

Rad-140 is not even close to doing what HCG is, and I'm not sure what your thinking is with that. It's a great cycle add on but does nothing to help your recovery

Interesting. Why not for 12 weeks? Because of the extended nature or something else?


So I guess I'll be dropping Clen and throwing in SR9009 and Mk-677. As for S4, I have heard about it resulting in ocular impairment and even though a lot of stated that they have had none I am just kind of keeping my distance from it.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Not using Anavar bruv that was on my last cycle. I am wary of orals so I went with something that wasn't that potent. Not exactly a huge fan of orals. I was thinking of putting Clen because I got my hands on some of the purest and strongest Clen's I've seen around. So though why not drop it in at the end of the cycle.

Currently I sit at around 16% give or take a % or 2, round abouts that anyway @210lbs this morning. I plan on dropping down to at least 15% before even touching anything. Hence the planning it out. I don't want to run into not having something or something I could have done better later on. I want to have it as strategically planned out as I can. Once I drop to 14%-15%, I'll start with the cycle not before.

I saw the video on first time cycle. Awesome stuff, I missed on a few things for my first two cycles that I am going to incorporate in this one. Going to do this one right.



Cheers



Interesting. Why not for 12 weeks? Because of the extended nature or something else?


So I guess I'll be dropping Clen and throwing in SR9009 and Mk-677. As for S4, I have heard about it resulting in ocular impairment and even though a lot of stated that they have had none I am just kind of keeping my distance from it.

eq does not even begin to really start working until week 8 or 9... its an extremely long ester and needs 16 weeks minimum... do you still want to run it? thats a shit load of pinning with prop and ace.. eq is definitely worth it... have you considered switching to test cyp and tren enanthate? let me know so i can fix this properly for you

 

[EZ_E]

OP; 15% bf @ what height and weight? How many cycles have you run overall? What was the EXACT dose and length of time of each? When were they? What was your EXACT PCT for each?

I still don't know your goals....

 

[LupineMind]

eq does not even begin to really start working until week 8 or 9... its an extremely long ester and needs 16 weeks minimum... do you still want to run it? thats a shit load of pinning with prop and ace.. eq is definitely worth it... have you considered switching to test cyp and tren enanthate? let me know so i can fix this properly for you

Sorry for the late reply bruv, got busy with life and such. Honestly I have no problem pinning if it's every other day instead of every day. The reason why I don't want to switch to Cyp and Tren E is simply because I already have most of what I need for the cycle with me and from what I know, which does pale in comparison to what people know here, is that short esters are much better suited for cutting and recomp than longer esters. I'd love to be corrected if I am wrong.

OP; 15% bf @ what height and weight? How many cycles have you run overall? What was the EXACT dose and length of time of each? When were they? What was your EXACT PCT for each?

I still don't know your goals....

Sorry mate, skipped over your last post
I was going more by visual look than by accurately measuring my weight and bf%. I'd be guessing right now which I don't want to do.
Currently I am about 16%, maybe 17% at 208lbs @ 5 feet 9 . This will be my third cycle, my first cycle was a test only cycle @ 12 weeks , my second one was Test P, Tren Ace and Anawar cycle which I had to cut short because of my injury @ 7 weeks. PCT was fairly standard with Nolva and Clomid for 5 weeks. I skipped HCG on the friend's advice which was stupid really.
As far as dosages are concerned I was doing 50mgs of Test P and Tren Ace EOD for most of the cycle. I increased tren to 75 and it was then that I started seeing sides like insomnia and slight back acne.
Goals are to cut as much as I can before Uni starts in September. I have no specific bf% in mind to hit simply because it hasn't worked out for me in the past, if that is what you mean by goals.

 

[buen]

too young..(you said you're in University)
too high bf to be using aas
you've already shown your lack of understanding/responsibility of aas by using tren on a 2nd cycle
NO WAY SHOULD YOU DO A 3rd cycle
stick around ...get a bit more understanding/education about aas use
dial in your diet and training

try a sarms stack

 

[LupineMind]

too young..too high bf to be using aas
you've already shown your lack of understanding/responsibility by using tren on a 2nd cycle
NO WAY SHOULD YOU DO A 3rd cycle

try a sarms stack

I thought that the minimum accepted age for when you can try AAS was 26. Also I have already stated that I'd be dropped my bf% down to about 14 before even starting the cycle.
Furthermore, I have already acknowledged that me relying on my friend for the first two cycles was a mistake and therefore before I started my third I wanted to any and everything important including the stack itself.
I do respect your opinion, just I don't know what you are basing it on.

 

[LupineMind]

too young..(you said you're in University)

I am actually in the final year for my masters. Also I started Uni late because I had to take a couple years off for personal reasons. I'm going to turn 28

 

[buen]

I'm assuming you are young because you said " before Uni starts in September"
sorry if I'm wrong...how old are you?
Re: body fat....when you do get it in an acceptable range..you will still be in the top end
So...stick to the basics my friend....trust me...you don't need/want anything more than Test 250-350mg/week plus a sarms cuting stack to reach your goals

It's great to admit that you were misguided on your other cycles....so why would you make the same mistake again
There is no way Tren is appropriate for you at this time

 

[LupineMind]

I'm assuming you are young because you said " before Uni starts in September"
sorry if I'm wrong...how old are you?
Re: body fat....when you do get it in an acceptable range..you will still be in the top end
So...stick to the basics my friend....trust me...you don't need/want anything more than Test 250-350mg/week plus a sarms cuting stack to reach your goals

It's great to admit that you were misguided on your other cycles....so why would you make the same mistake again
There is no way Tren is appropriate for you at this time

Fair enough, what would you suggest I cut down to. Also posted my age in the above post.

 

[buen]

yeah..sorry about the age

If you can dial in your training and have a consistent diet (200-400 calories below resting maintenance)
It would be appropriate to start a test only cycle once you get below 15%
The sarms cutting stack would be a great addition to help you reduce your bf%