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What to expect mentally and physically on first SARM cycle?

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LayDownPipe

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Hey,

Buckle in for a long read but I really want some input on this topic as a newbie.

I know there are a lot of educated gym rats here and here's your chance to show your knowledge and experience.

I'm 27 years old, male. Medium(-ish) build, pretty fit but nothing too crazy. Physical work as I'm in the military and trying to up my game - physically and career wise. Hence why I'm here.

No real prior PED use ever.

I am planning on doing a RAD-140 and MK-677 stack for 8 weeks. The standard 10mg of RAD and 25mg of MK a day. Some occasional GW501516 for cardio sessions but not planning on "cycling" it - if that's even okay to take occasionally?

A lot of conflicting information online and I'm afraid of getting stuck in an "echochamber" with only one type of information. Also, trying to stray away from the "loud minority" type and get as much input as I can regarding this topic.

Questions:
  • What can, and should, I expect during my first week(s) of the cycle? (Health and feeling wise)
  • How will this affect my gastrointestinal work? Any nausea?
  • General well-being changes how?
  • What did you experience with your first SARM (pref. R140 MK677) cycle? Any other outstanding effects you've had during or after a cycle?
  • I've read it takes body some time to get used to the mystery substances I'd be taking. What should I expect and can I help my body get used to the substances any better/faster?
  • Can I ease my system into the cycle? (i.e seeing how 5mg R140 affects my body, etc.)
  • Would it be OK to take Clomid (during or as PCT) for some time until Enclo arrives?
  • Kind of a side-question, however how does Metoclopramide compare to MK-677? Not thinking they're the same but asking because Metoclopramide aids with stomach emptying (resulting in hunger) and MK-677 makes you hungry in general
I'm a bit of a health freak (anxious when trying new things that may affect my well-being) and SARMs are out of my comfort zone but I am determined to do a cycle due to my future special forces tryouts. If others can cycle this then why shouldn't I be able to do this, right? I tend to over-think and over-analyze things, get super anxious and perhaps even some placebo.

I have no prior medical issues (diagnosed anyways) and would say my health is average (or maybe a tad below average due to my service). The only real issue I have is my digestion as I often fast when I'm out in the field playing war with my mates - can't eat when I should eat, etc. This mainly just boils down to my irregular diet and has somewhat translated to my personal life as well (skipping breakfast, eating before sleep due to fasting during the day, etc.)

The substances are all in rectangular tablet form.

I've read MK-677 is the most likely contestant for GI issues due to its effect on the digestive system.

Regardless, let me know if I'm making sense with my questions and I'm happy to discuss my plans further.

Thanks.
 
these PED's are a tool. there is no black/white answer to what will happen. just use them as the tool they are and you can expect an easier time with your training
 
LayDownPipe said:
Hey,

Buckle in for a long read but I really want some input on this topic as a newbie.

I know there are a lot of educated gym rats here and here's your chance to show your knowledge and experience.

I'm 27 years old, male. Medium(-ish) build, pretty fit but nothing too crazy. Physical work as I'm in the military and trying to up my game - physically and career wise. Hence why I'm here.

No real prior PED use ever.

I am planning on doing a RAD-140 and MK-677 stack for 8 weeks. The standard 10mg of RAD and 25mg of MK a day. Some occasional GW501516 for cardio sessions but not planning on "cycling" it - if that's even okay to take occasionally?

A lot of conflicting information online and I'm afraid of getting stuck in an "echochamber" with only one type of information. Also, trying to stray away from the "loud minority" type and get as much input as I can regarding this topic.

Questions:
  • What can, and should, I expect during my first week(s) of the cycle? (Health and feeling wise)
  • How will this affect my gastrointestinal work? Any nausea?
  • General well-being changes how?
  • What did you experience with your first SARM (pref. R140 MK677) cycle? Any other outstanding effects you've had during or after a cycle?
  • I've read it takes body some time to get used to the mystery substances I'd be taking. What should I expect and can I help my body get used to the substances any better/faster?
  • Can I ease my system into the cycle? (i.e seeing how 5mg R140 affects my body, etc.)
  • Would it be OK to take Clomid (during or as PCT) for some time until Enclo arrives?
  • Kind of a side-question, however how does Metoclopramide compare to MK-677? Not thinking they're the same but asking because Metoclopramide aids with stomach emptying (resulting in hunger) and MK-677 makes you hungry in general
I'm a bit of a health freak (anxious when trying new things that may affect my well-being) and SARMs are out of my comfort zone but I am determined to do a cycle due to my future special forces tryouts. If others can cycle this then why shouldn't I be able to do this, right? I tend to over-think and over-analyze things, get super anxious and perhaps even some placebo.

I have no prior medical issues (diagnosed anyways) and would say my health is average (or maybe a tad below average due to my service). The only real issue I have is my digestion as I often fast when I'm out in the field playing war with my mates - can't eat when I should eat, etc. This mainly just boils down to my irregular diet and has somewhat translated to my personal life as well (skipping breakfast, eating before sleep due to fasting during the day, etc.)

The substances are all in rectangular tablet form.

I've read MK-677 is the most likely contestant for GI issues due to its effect on the digestive system.

Regardless, let me know if I'm making sense with my questions and I'm happy to discuss my plans further.

Thanks.
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bro sarms good, but make sure you use umbrella they are good people
 
Thank you for your replies!

Code: 
1. We have a sarms ebook. Have a read and it'll give you SOME indication: https://irongorillas.com/bionic-sarms-ebook-learn/
I can only assume the SARMs ebook is the current source of truth? It seems most of the forums I've been through just use ChatGPT to plan their cycle.

Code: 
 bro sarms good, but make sure you use umbrella they are good people
What's an umbrella? Is it a brand? I'll definitely look into them, however I've already ordered my gear.

Code: 
 these PED's are a tool. there is no black/white answer to what will happen. just use them as the tool they are and you can expect an easier time with your training
This is good advice. Muscles don't grow on their own and these tools just allow for greater results.

Thanks! Will keep an eye on this thread.
 
LayDownPipe said:
Hey,

Buckle in for a long read but I really want some input on this topic as a newbie.

I know there are a lot of educated gym rats here and here's your chance to show your knowledge and experience.

I'm 27 years old, male. Medium(-ish) build, pretty fit but nothing too crazy. Physical work as I'm in the military and trying to up my game - physically and career wise. Hence why I'm here.

No real prior PED use ever.

I am planning on doing a RAD-140 and MK-677 stack for 8 weeks. The standard 10mg of RAD and 25mg of MK a day. Some occasional GW501516 for cardio sessions but not planning on "cycling" it - if that's even okay to take occasionally?

A lot of conflicting information online and I'm afraid of getting stuck in an "echochamber" with only one type of information. Also, trying to stray away from the "loud minority" type and get as much input as I can regarding this topic.

Questions:
  • What can, and should, I expect during my first week(s) of the cycle? (Health and feeling wise)
  • How will this affect my gastrointestinal work? Any nausea?
  • General well-being changes how?
  • What did you experience with your first SARM (pref. R140 MK677) cycle? Any other outstanding effects you've had during or after a cycle?
  • I've read it takes body some time to get used to the mystery substances I'd be taking. What should I expect and can I help my body get used to the substances any better/faster?
  • Can I ease my system into the cycle? (i.e seeing how 5mg R140 affects my body, etc.)
  • Would it be OK to take Clomid (during or as PCT) for some time until Enclo arrives?
  • Kind of a side-question, however how does Metoclopramide compare to MK-677? Not thinking they're the same but asking because Metoclopramide aids with stomach emptying (resulting in hunger) and MK-677 makes you hungry in general
I'm a bit of a health freak (anxious when trying new things that may affect my well-being) and SARMs are out of my comfort zone but I am determined to do a cycle due to my future special forces tryouts. If others can cycle this then why shouldn't I be able to do this, right? I tend to over-think and over-analyze things, get super anxious and perhaps even some placebo.

I have no prior medical issues (diagnosed anyways) and would say my health is average (or maybe a tad below average due to my service). The only real issue I have is my digestion as I often fast when I'm out in the field playing war with my mates - can't eat when I should eat, etc. This mainly just boils down to my irregular diet and has somewhat translated to my personal life as well (skipping breakfast, eating before sleep due to fasting during the day, etc.)

The substances are all in rectangular tablet form.

I've read MK-677 is the most likely contestant for GI issues due to its effect on the digestive system.

Regardless, let me know if I'm making sense with my questions and I'm happy to discuss my plans further.

Thanks.
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i would run hcgenerate in pct. it is a great natty test booster
 
Its hard to say what to expect when there are so many variables to what people experience. Genetics, training, diet, dose, quality of gear, and how the individual responds to certain compounds just to name a few.
 
LayDownPipe said:
Thank you for your replies!

Code: 
1. We have a sarms ebook. Have a read and it'll give you SOME indication: https://irongorillas.com/bionic-sarms-ebook-learn/
Click to expand...
I can only assume the SARMs ebook is the current source of truth? It seems most of the forums I've been through just use ChatGPT to plan their cycle.

Code: 
 bro sarms good, but make sure you use umbrella they are good people
What's an umbrella? Is it a brand? I'll definitely look into them, however I've already ordered my gear.

Code: 
 these PED's are a tool. there is no black/white answer to what will happen. just use them as the tool they are and you can expect an easier time with your training
This is good advice. Muscles don't grow on their own and these tools just allow for greater results.

Thanks! Will keep an eye on this thread.
Written by mods and from actual research and experiences

We actually did a show on NOT using ChatGPT to plan cycles: https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
 
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