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what I've done for now, was assess how i am feeling. I have been feeling completely wiped out. while performance in the gym has been good/steady, i noticed my normal day to day functions were a chore. I believe this is partially due to being in a caloric deficit for so long, working out 6-7 days...

Makes total sense, i was wanting to eat at maintenance as ive been eating at 1500 calories for well over 3 months now, but i will finish the cycle out and assess after.

Thanks Dylan, makes sense. I guess knowing where I was before, that mindset of "oh if i eat "normal" ill get huge again" (and not huge in the good way). And Ive been told that I should not try to mass yet as it doesnt make sense since im not lean enough, so it's all been playing that dumb mental...

Yeah, upp that cardio, as i do NOT want to lower calories any more.

Id like some thoughts on this. I was thinking after this cycle i wolf attempt to put on some mass. Is my body fat too high to attempt that? I would eat probably 100-200 calories above maintenance on my next cycle. Just looking for some advice from the experts here 👍

Thanks. Thinking of doing me cardio to help the midsection more, and lower back that still has undesirable fat.

some progress pics - advice/critique/whatever is always welcome. calories have been steady 1500 since day 1 (actually for about 6 weeks prior to cycle). I took a 5 day diet break eating at 1900 calories this past week and back to 1500.

Yeah i am ocd when it comes to tracking and weighing food. 🍲👍

After a few days of maintenance, do you think i should go back to 1500 or drop a bit more?

Just over 18 days in and things are going well. No noticeable side effects yet. Been keeping at 1500kcal a day with at least 1 day a week at maintenance. I have been able to increase weight and reps on sets each session to a small degree which is awesome. I will be taking a diet break and eating...

Eating at a defecit at around 1600 cals, with 45% from protein. Carbs are all rice, sweet potatoes, 647 fiber bread, banana and Oatmeal, more fats at night. I do believe in proper nutrition regardless of natty or not.

5 days in today, so far so good. no side effects yet from the s4, but it's early in the cycle. From all I've read it may/should take 2-3 weeks to start to notice the positive effects. I feel that the GW has helped so far in regards to endurance however.

Only ran ostarine so I'll follow for sure.

Understood, pushing the 12 :)

Makes complete sense, thank you :)

Interesting, i never considered....

Thanks and this forum is always helpful, especially DG. Will be running the stack, adding cardio into my 6 day routine as well as keeping up the deficit. After 8 weeks, pct, will break and re-asses.

Yeah I'm interested to see. My concern was losing the muscle i have worked hard to get just to lose the rest of the fat i have in certain areas and just get too skinny. Sounds like this stack should help prevent that while in a pretty good deficit. I just seem to store it one area 🙄

Thanks for the rundown - appreciated! will be ordering today. I had extra bottles of ostarine from previous cycle that worked so legit imo so will use those up first. I will probably eat around 1500 to 1600 with a higher protein ratio over the other macros... After the Xmas day feast of course...

Hi all, long time lurker first time poster. So I'm running my 2nd cycle of ostarine at 20mg ed. I ran a cutting cycle back in the summer and ate at around 1500 calories and it worked great. I didn't gain a lot of strength, if any (not my goal at the time), but lost some weight and body fat...