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drb_iac

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Since I posted the bit about what % of testoserone is in the various esters , I have been getting questions, so I want to explain it a little better. For our purposes here we will just do test cyp vs testE.

The weight or atomic weight of a molecule comes from the periodic chart. For example methane gas is ch4. This means 1 carbon atom with 4 hydrogen atoms attached. To calculate the molecuar weight we add up the sums of each element. Carbon is 12 and hydrogen is one, so the gram formula weight or atomic weight of methane is 12 +4=16. Without getting to far out I will just say this is actaully the weight of 1 mole of methane. You may have heard of avogadro's number, but we aint going there. So if we go to butane it looks like this c-c-c-c with 3 hydrogens on the two end carbons and 2 hydrogens on the two middle carbons. So the atomic weight is 12+12+12+12+ 10 hydrogens. So the atomic weight is 58.

Now to the testosterone molecule. The atomic weight is 288.42. The atomic weight of test cyp is 412.6. So the % testosterone is 288.43 divided by 412.6 x100=69.99.

For TestE the atomic weight is 400.59. So the % testosterone is 288.42 divided by 400.59 x100= 71.99.

So test cyp is about 70% test and testE is about 72% test.

Is this significant? Maybe...if you are using 100mg then with cyp you are getting 70mg test and with tesE you are getting 72mg. Not much difference, and the more you use the less significant it becomes.
Lets say we are using 500mg. Then 500 x.70=350mg test from testcyp, and 500x.72=360mg test from test E.

Now test prop is 83.7% test. If you were to shoot 150mg prop 3 times per week then you would get 376mg of test. Still kind of close!!!
So does 350 vs 360 vs 376 make a lot of difference? Up to you!!!
Drb
 
Eh this is alright. ..but id rather here more stories of you sticking ur arm up cows asses n shit. :shock:
 
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drb_iac said:
Since I posted the bit about what % of testoserone is in the various esters , I have been getting questions, so I want to explain it a little better. For our purposes here we will just do test cyp vs testE.

The weight or atomic weight of a molecule comes from the periodic chart. For example methane gas is ch4. This means 1 carbon atom with 4 hydrogen atoms attached. To calculate the molecuar weight we add up the sums of each element. Carbon is 12 and hydrogen is one, so the gram formula weight or atomic weight of methane is 12 +4=16. Without getting to far out I will just say this is actaully the weight of 1 mole of methane. You may have heard of avogadro's number, but we aint going there. So if we go to butane it looks like this c-c-c-c with 3 hydrogens on the two end carbons and 2 hydrogens on the two middle carbons. So the atomic weight is 12+12+12+12+ 10 hydrogens. So the atomic weight is 58.

Now to the testosterone molecule. The atomic weight is 288.42. The atomic weight of test cyp is 412.6. So the % testosterone is 288.43 divided by 412.6 x100=69.99.

For TestE the atomic weight is 400.59. So the % testosterone is 288.42 divided by 400.59 x100= 71.99.

So test cyp is about 70% test and testE is about 72% test.

Is this significant? Maybe...if you are using 100mg then with cyp you are getting 70mg test and with tesE you are getting 72mg. Not much difference, and the more you use the less significant it becomes.
Lets say we are using 500mg. Then 500 x.70=350mg test from testcyp, and 500x.72=360mg test from test E.

Now test prop is 83.7% test. If you were to shoot 150mg prop 3 times per week then you would get 376mg of test. Still kind of close!!!
So does 350 vs 360 vs 376 make a lot of difference? Up to you!!!
Drb
This is very good information that puts things in perspective of just how insignificant the differences are for those running higher doses on cycle. It is something to think about while on TRY or cruising, but nobody should really put a lot of stock into the differences when running a cycle. It's basically negligible
 
cmb5017 said:
Eh this is alright. ..but id rather here more stories of you sticking ur arm up cows asses n shit. :shock:


Oh dude...I hate to tell you this...but that story happens often and guess what? It is not up her ass...dig? It is pulling a stuck baby out...lol.I may tell you another one...I was doing that and she took a dump. One of the smart asses with me took a picture but ain't posting!!!!
 
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RickRock said:
drb_iac said:
Since I posted the bit about what % of testoserone is in the various esters , I have been getting questions, so I want to explain it a little better. For our purposes here we will just do test cyp vs testE.

The weight or atomic weight of a molecule comes from the periodic chart. For example methane gas is ch4. This means 1 carbon atom with 4 hydrogen atoms attached. To calculate the molecuar weight we add up the sums of each element. Carbon is 12 and hydrogen is one, so the gram formula weight or atomic weight of methane is 12 +4=16. Without getting to far out I will just say this is actaully the weight of 1 mole of methane. You may have heard of avogadro's number, but we aint going there. So if we go to butane it looks like this c-c-c-c with 3 hydrogens on the two end carbons and 2 hydrogens on the two middle carbons. So the atomic weight is 12+12+12+12+ 10 hydrogens. So the atomic weight is 58.

Now to the testosterone molecule. The atomic weight is 288.42. The atomic weight of test cyp is 412.6. So the % testosterone is 288.43 divided by 412.6 x100=69.99.

For TestE the atomic weight is 400.59. So the % testosterone is 288.42 divided by 400.59 x100= 71.99.

So test cyp is about 70% test and testE is about 72% test.

Is this significant? Maybe...if you are using 100mg then with cyp you are getting 70mg test and with tesE you are getting 72mg. Not much difference, and the more you use the less significant it becomes.
Lets say we are using 500mg. Then 500 x.70=350mg test from testcyp, and 500x.72=360mg test from test E.

Now test prop is 83.7% test. If you were to shoot 150mg prop 3 times per week then you would get 376mg of test. Still kind of close!!!
So does 350 vs 360 vs 376 make a lot of difference? Up to you!!!
Drb


Yeah rick...I think that is the point. It really is not something to worry about, and there should be no debate between E and cyp. I always say that the one I like best is the one I have on hand.
This is very good information that puts things in perspective of just how insignificant the differences are for those running higher doses on cycle. It is something to think about while on TRY or cruising, but nobody should really put a lot of stock into the differences when running a cycle. It's basically negligible
 
drb_iac said:
cmb5017 said:
Eh this is alright. ..but id rather here more stories of you sticking ur arm up cows asses n shit. :shock:


Oh dude...I hate to tell you this...but that story happens often and guess what? It is not up her ass...dig? It is pulling a stuck baby out...lol.I may tell you another one...I was doing that and she took a dump. One of the smart asses with me took a picture but ain't posting!!!!

I must see it!
 
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