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well just in case he wasn't going to listen to me before and stop he sure will now. He won't be at work today because yesterday he got sick his sides started hurting and he threw up in the gym. I personally think this is just a cuinkydink but either way he is sure it was because of the...

No drugs he does drink some but I couldn't tell you how much. After all he is 20. I assume it's like anyone else that age. For the most part you don't go home and grab a beer. But 3-4 times a month you find yourself with buddies or a party and drink to much. I just assume if you serious about...

Well I talked to him this morning. And he said he would stop the cycle. His concern was what to do now that he had been doing it for 5 days though. I told him I wouldn't worry about it that it probably wasn't long enough that he would need to do the PCT or anything but to keep taking the cycle...

He knew he needed to do PCT after he was done. But I had to tell him what PCT even was and why you need to do it. I will be sure to steer him in the right direction if a can't get him to stop.

He is also taking a support called Cycle Guard II. I looked at it earlier and it has Milk Thistle as the 1st ingredient. And he has stopped drinking. He doesn't really know what he is doing but it does seam he is listening to the place that sold it to him. As far as their directions go.

Okay I will be more adamant about not doing them then. The main thing I remembered about your utube was no less than 3 years in the gym and 15% body fat. I was telling him he needed to work on his diet. He eats like a horse if he cut that down and added a bit of cardio I'm sure he could cut that...

At his age? I thought the main thing was amount of time in gym? With 3+ years in the gym already. I figured 20 years old would not be that bad an age. So 20 is too young when exactly is a good age to start?

Yes I can probably get my hands on what he is taking. And more importantly the active ingredients of the product. As far as him joining I doubt it, like I said he has the attention span of a mouse. And no internet just his phone and he doesn't really use it. I sent him an email about this forum...

Well I don't know to much at this time. But I will share what I know so far. And see what you all can say to help fill me in. I have an employee who lifts. He is 20 years old and has the attention span of a mouse. So I have kinda taken upon myself to help him out. So far I have given him what...

Okay so you all think I should drop the gel completely and go to 2 .5ml injects a week? So that would be 2 injects 100mg each. As far as blood testing on my own. How do you do that?

Okay here are some of the numbers. When I first got tested I was at like 200. So the doctor put me on androgel 2 pumps per day. It is 20.25mg per pump so that would have been 40.5mg per day or 283.50mg per week. That got me up to 432 test on my next test. So he told me to go to 3 pumps on 1 day...

Yes I agree. I was just as shocked as him to see it up that high. But that was my 1st shot at it. I took a guess and went for it. Now that I know exactly what I am taking and where it got me. I can cut it down and go from there. My goal was to be in the 800 range. Based off a study I read. I was...

Okay cool thanks. As far as my numbers posted earlier. Anything on that? Besides getting down to the cruse versus the blast.

Yes I totally get what you mean about the "fat blanket". I did not expect to see anything. But I did think it would help with lactic acid build up, recovery, weight jumps. It might be. I am working out different than I have in the past. I am doing heavy weight with out a lot of reps just 6-8 per...

40 years old 5' 11" 216 lbs. (was 242 when I started) scale says 29% bf currently gym 2-2.5 hours every other day fasted cardio 30 mins non gym days But as far as the fat ass part goes. I took that to mean you shouldn't from a health point. Not that it simply won't work.

My diet should be okay. But hell the calculators are all over the place. I might have something to do with according to most people on this forum my fat ass shouldn't even be trying roids. Diet: 2,400 a day 218g protein 244g carbs 61g fat Almost all carbs and fat coming from good sources...

I am taking a total of 50mg per day. It is 10mg pills. So I am taking 2 at 8am and 3 at 4pm. I go to the gym around 5pm.

Okay thanks. I will do that then. As far as the Winstrol it was from a source here. But it could also be me. I could be doing something wrong or maybe not working out enough to kick it in per say. I am not sure. I have a lot to learn about this sort of stuff. Like for instance I go to the gym...

Okay so if I read you correctly. I should not shoot for 1200-1400 test all the time but treat it like it is its own cycle? For instance lets say I need to cruise for TRT at the 600-800 range. But i can blast to 1200-1400 for 12 weeks then go back down? If so what should be my cruise time before...

So went to my doctor today 2 weeks after blood work. And he can't seam to figure you for the life of him how switching me from 2 pumps of Androgen to 2.5 pumps daily. Took me from 465ng/dl to 1,570 ng/dl. What he doesn't know is I got tired of his low does goals of getting me to 550 ng/dl. And I...