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Stenabolic or Cadarine for hockey/staying fit

zgoalscorer

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45 year old here. Had thyroid cancer in 2004 and currently on synthroid meds due to half throid being left. I been lifting for 25+ years on and off. Got back serious in 2015. Started at 223lbs and now at 193lbs.
I would like to build a tad bit more muscle like tighten up what i have and lose some more fat but mainly that stubborn lower belly fat. last year i got down to 180 but that lower belly fat was still there and i looked worse then i did at 190 so i gained back the weight. I also play hockey a couple times a week. So heres my question. Im thinking stenabolic or cardarine which one for me would be the best to fit my lifestyle? It seems that stenabolic would be what i would go with but i'm afraid about the not being able to sleep thing i have read. Does cardarine have the same possible side effect? Will either affect thyroid at all as this can be a factor? I want something with low risk and just help this old man out as a jump start. The gym is getting boring at times as i see no body change. My diet is very good not perfect. I was thinking to take stenabolic only before i work out but will that help any? Maybe that work out it will help but thats it i'm thinking.
Need so thoughts, knowledge and opinions here. i seen Dylan Gemelli’s you tube videos which i thought were very good...... I thank you all helping this old man in advance.
 

DylanGemelli

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you want to go with cardarine and s4... neither cardarine nor stenabolic will add any muscle whatsoever and you indicated you wanted to gain a bit more muscle and lose fat... nothing is better at helping with fat loss than gw.. you can get everything you need at esarms.com...




1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
9-12 M1 MK by Banned Nutrition (esarms.com)


Mini pct 13-16



M! MK by Banned Nutrition (esarms.com)
Cardazol by Banned Nutrition (esarms.com)
gw-501516 20 mg day
 

zgoalscorer

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Dylan thank you! S4 im afraid of as those vision side effects. I drive alot at night which dont help. Whats your thoughts of ostarine? Also do you know if any of these affect thyroid levels? Thanks
 

zgoalscorer

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It seems if we are talking the safest as far as doing harm to your body and side effects that cardarine and stenabolic are the ones. I know stebabolic wont effect thyroid levels but wonder if cardarine would. The cancer study I know about but 100x of alot of things can for sure cause all sorts of bad things specially in a 3lb rat.
 

DylanGemelli

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It seems if we are talking the safest as far as doing harm to your body and side effects that cardarine and stenabolic are the ones. I know stebabolic wont effect thyroid levels but wonder if cardarine would. The cancer study I know about but 100x of alot of things can for sure cause all sorts of bad things specially in a 3lb rat.

No cardarine will not effect your thyroid
 

Neverbackdownx

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As Dylan, administrator mentioned Cardarine and S4 is a good combo. You can try it out and let us know how it works for you, for me it worked like a charm.
 
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