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bonertone

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Hi Dylan
im from Brasil, would like to congratulate you on your work and webpage, I would like to ask a few questions. Quick background Here sarms and petides are unknown but I have been following for almost 2 years now and have done a Cardarine and Tb500 cycle. Like most places its unregulated and grey area “illegal”, very hard and expensive to find. I have done some orders online but sometimes gets seized by customs and heath agencies. I seen information now has grown a lot and I would like to mostly avoid steroids. I do mostly endurance sports, specially cycling and triathlon. Im what you can call a “pro” amateur, im not a pro but train very much like one, so its hard to keep up with train and daily activities. Mostly do amateur events so at the moment no problem with anti doping.

Right now Im coming of a period of extreme training and back to back competing almost gone into overtraining so decide to take some time off competing and looking into doing a cycle based on recovery and strength but I have a few doubts. So lets go straight to it.

1- I know that SR9009 and Cardarine have similar effect, so I would like to know, would it be beneficial to stack both of them together or would be a overkill ? Since we need time on and off any substance would it be better to use both sarms separately switching between them, 2 or 3 months on SR9009 and 2-3 months on Cardarine and so on to have a longer use during the year.

2- For a recovery blend Im looking into stacking peptides tb500 + PEG MGF and Ipamorelin. What can you tell me about that stacking any suggestions? Also I see that there are similar options, like Sermorelin, CJC 1295 dac and GHRP-2, any suggestions on replacement or better stacking results with all those mentioned?

3- Even tho I mentioned of staying away from steroids, my major goals is to stay very lean all year long and have a lot of strength with out major gain in mass and weight, so I do considered very low dosage of some steroids also for short periods across the year. Looked into Testosterone (injection), Oxodrolone (oral), Halotesin(oral). Oxodrolone and halotesin looking into no more than 30 day at around 30mg a day to gain strength and after the cycle keep going on the sarms and peptides to maintain gains. With testo looking into up to 8-12weeks prior to competing something around 100mg a week. How can you suggest I organize this ?

4- Possibly replacing the testosterone I seen information I could use LGD 4033, would that have a similar effect ? How would I cycle and stack with all the rest ? I would be worried about gaining too much weight.

5- Oxodrolone and halotesin im looking into doing 2 times during the year for around 4 weeks, on a strength gaining program focusing also on gym, maybe around January getting ready for the start of the year and around July getting ready for the second semester. Of could fit a 3rd time there and place all evenly spaced across the year? What would you suggest ? Any thought about also stacking with stanozolol oral also on small doses.


Thanks for your attention.
 

gian

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1) You can stack SR and GW together with no problem...

2) I know nothing about those peptides, sorry

3) there is no such thing as running "low doses for short periods of time"... 30 days is nothing ... stay away from halo, for the love of god....

4) LGD4033 can't replace test... however you can get some great gains with it ... but if you don't want to gain weight, I would go with something else

5) do not use any of those compounds

What exactly are your full stats?
For your goals, I would go with a sarms stack:

Weeks 1-12
SR9009 30mg per day
Rad-140 20mg per day
GW 20mg per day
 

DylanGemelli

Founding Member
Super Moderator
Hi Dylan
im from Brasil, would like to congratulate you on your work and webpage, I would like to ask a few questions. Quick background Here sarms and petides are unknown but I have been following for almost 2 years now and have done a Cardarine and Tb500 cycle. Like most places its unregulated and grey area “illegal”, very hard and expensive to find. I have done some orders online but sometimes gets seized by customs and heath agencies. I seen information now has grown a lot and I would like to mostly avoid steroids. I do mostly endurance sports, specially cycling and triathlon. Im what you can call a “pro” amateur, im not a pro but train very much like one, so its hard to keep up with train and daily activities. Mostly do amateur events so at the moment no problem with anti doping.

Right now Im coming of a period of extreme training and back to back competing almost gone into overtraining so decide to take some time off competing and looking into doing a cycle based on recovery and strength but I have a few doubts. So lets go straight to it.

1- I know that SR9009 and Cardarine have similar effect, so I would like to know, would it be beneficial to stack both of them together or would be a overkill ? Since we need time on and off any substance would it be better to use both sarms separately switching between them, 2 or 3 months on SR9009 and 2-3 months on Cardarine and so on to have a longer use during the year.

2- For a recovery blend Im looking into stacking peptides tb500 + PEG MGF and Ipamorelin. What can you tell me about that stacking any suggestions? Also I see that there are similar options, like Sermorelin, CJC 1295 dac and GHRP-2, any suggestions on replacement or better stacking results with all those mentioned?

3- Even tho I mentioned of staying away from steroids, my major goals is to stay very lean all year long and have a lot of strength with out major gain in mass and weight, so I do considered very low dosage of some steroids also for short periods across the year. Looked into Testosterone (injection), Oxodrolone (oral), Halotesin(oral). Oxodrolone and halotesin looking into no more than 30 day at around 30mg a day to gain strength and after the cycle keep going on the sarms and peptides to maintain gains. With testo looking into up to 8-12weeks prior to competing something around 100mg a week. How can you suggest I organize this ?

4- Possibly replacing the testosterone I seen information I could use LGD 4033, would that have a similar effect ? How would I cycle and stack with all the rest ? I would be worried about gaining too much weight.

5- Oxodrolone and halotesin im looking into doing 2 times during the year for around 4 weeks, on a strength gaining program focusing also on gym, maybe around January getting ready for the start of the year and around July getting ready for the second semester. Of could fit a 3rd time there and place all evenly spaced across the year? What would you suggest ? Any thought about also stacking with stanozolol oral also on small doses.


Thanks for your attention.

1. definitely stack them both...

2. i HATE peptides and they are generally a waste of time and money... tb500 is the only thing you listed there that i would actually recommend...

3. i would not suggest you... are you nuts with halo??? thats for VERY VERY experienced users... thats craziness...

4. you cannot replace test with any sarm if you are using other steroids...

5. you need to drop this shit with steroids... you dont have a clue what your talking about or doing and you are seriously going to hurt yourself and i have less than zero comfort recommending them to you.. stick with sarms..
 

bonertone

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1) You can stack SR and GW together with no problem...

2) I know nothing about those peptides, sorry

3) there is no such thing as running "low doses for short periods of time"... 30 days is nothing ... stay away from halo, for the love of god....

4) LGD4033 can't replace test... however you can get some great gains with it ... but if you don't want to gain weight, I would go with something else

5) do not use any of those compounds

What exactly are your full stats?
For your goals, I would go with a sarms stack:

Weeks 1-12
SR9009 30mg per day
Rad-140 20mg per day
GW 20mg per day
Hi Gian,
Im 1,87cm, 88kg at the moment 10-11% fat. When im fully on training I drop to around 6%
Looking into dropping to around 78-80kg and around 30% increase in strength and as much as possible increase in stamina and resistance.


1. definitely stack them both...

2. i HATE peptides and they are generally a waste of time and money... tb500 is the only thing you listed there that i would actually recommend...

3. i would not suggest you... are you nuts with halo??? thats for VERY VERY experienced users... thats craziness...

4. you cannot replace test with any sarm if you are using other steroids...

5. you need to drop this shit with steroids... you dont have a clue what your talking about or doing and you are seriously going to hurt yourself and i have less than zero comfort recommending them to you.. stick with sarms..

1. OK, for how long ? 12 weeks ?
2. I used only Tb500 before and felt great on recovery
3. Ok, i dont really know halo, what is so crazy about it ? also what is a Very very experienced user ? I will stay away from it.
4. The test issue is more related to strength, so using any sarms that will give me that strength and not have to use testo for me is fine. Would that be RAD-140 as suggest ?
5. Oxodrolone also as bad as halo? I will stick with sarms.
 

DylanGemelli

Founding Member
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1.. yes

2. ok

3. if you dont know, then you SHOULD NOT use it... period... its one of the most toxic and aggressive steroids you can run..

4. yes definitey..

5. no test, no oral steroids and anavar is for women bro... its very weak for men
 

bonertone

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Member
1.. yes

2. ok

3. if you dont know, then you SHOULD NOT use it... period... its one of the most toxic and aggressive steroids you can run..

4. yes definitey..

5. no test, no oral steroids and anavar is for women bro... its very weak for men

so should I run
Weeks 1-12
SR9009 30mg per day
Rad-140 20mg per day
GW 20mg per day
Should I add Andarine also? How much time off ?Will I experience two much of a drop in performance in the off period?
I want to drop in weight will rad-140 affect that too much? i do 2-3 hours of cycling 6 times a week, strength training at the gyn 4x a week and healthy diet with carbo and protein.
 

bonertone

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at the moment I have to issues with anti doping, I know they have a very short half life, but how long are the detection time for those 4, SR9009, Rad-140, GW, S4, also Tb500 if you know.

thanks
 

DylanGemelli

Founding Member
Super Moderator
noone knows detection times on sarms... thats not a question I or anyone else can answer....

that stack would be perfect but i would definitely add andarine.. you dont have to worry about gaining too much size whatsoever

here are the links to purchase everything you need followed by the layout...


https://www.sarmsx.com/30-off


https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138


1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 25 mg day dosed once a day 30 minutes prior to workout or a.m.
1-12 rad140 (TESTOLONE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 sr9009 (STENABOLIC) 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
9-12 tongkat ali


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day
 

bonertone

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Member
Can Cardarine and Stanabolic be considered as "immediate" acting on the body, in a similar way as a caffeine pill, starts acting as soon as you take it or is it long lasting and results will last for a longer period. Lets say I dont take them for one day will I still feel that stamina and resistance that day?
 

DylanGemelli

Founding Member
Super Moderator
they take a few days to really kick in and no ,they are nothing like a caffeine pill.. thats not how it works... you need to take them daily so they build in your system...
 

bonertone

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Member
so they build in and they stay in for a longer period also? just mentioned the caffeine pill or other thermogenic that it wears out after a few hours of taking it. So after a few days /weeks in the cycle the effect will be "permanent" not just after taking it?
What is the reason for the tongkat ali only late in the cycle? Any major benefit in stacking with 100mg of testo/week or HCG, for sure I would need a better pct.
 
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