mistakes back in the day

[drb_iac]

The first bit of wrong info back in the day was to do very heavy side bends with dumbs. The guys from that era all have over developed obliques, Including me to some extent.Mistake #2 bench then bench then bench again. Now we all have shoulder pain. Use those dumbs and do inclines.After all we are not power lifters. So why did we always keep trying to bench more and more? It seemed to be the gauge of progress. WRONG..the mirror is. There was no pct, so everyone tapered down. The thinking was that if the last 3 weeks was just 200mg test then we were gradually restoring. Wrong.All we were doing was prolonging our test coming back. I can say that it always did seem to restore itself.It is a big mistake to use so much weight that you hurt yourself for your latter years. Use form,concentration,focus..feel each rep. Another mistake that is still somewhat prevalent today is that as the gear kicks in we use too too much weight. Problem is our muscles are getting stronger but our tendons that hold that muscle in place are not. You leave yourself open for lots of tendonitis.

 

[cmb5017]

The first bit of wrong info back in the day was to do very heavy side bends with dumbs. The guys from that era all have over developed obliques, Including me to some extent.Mistake #2 bench then bench then bench again. Now we all have shoulder pain. Use those dumbs and do inclines.After all we are not power lifters. So why did we always keep trying to bench more and more? It seemed to be the gauge of progress. WRONG..the mirror is. There was no pct, so everyone tapered down. The thinking was that if the last 3 weeks was just 200mg test then we were gradually restoring. Wrong.All we were doing was prolonging our test coming back. I can say that it always did seem to restore itself.It is a big mistake to use so much weight that you hurt yourself for your latter years. Use form,concentration,focus..feel each rep. Another mistake that is still somewhat prevalent today is that as the gear kicks in we use too too much weight. Problem is our muscles are getting stronger but our tendons that hold that muscle in place are not. You leave yourself open for lots of tendonitis.

I learned the best advice from kai green. That was forget the benches and forget the weight. Its all about muscle concentration and isolation exercises for chest. He said if u can't do 20 reps then ur goin too heavy. The average guy thinks growth comes from heavy weights n low reps. Once I switched to his method ive had explosive chest gains..forget about 225/315/405 ect. Damn the weight. When people ask me whaddaya bench, im like idk..I dont use flat bench anymore. I use incline bench. But dumb bells and machines for every thing else and Im having incredible results

 

[RickRock]

Re: RE: mistakes back in the day

The first bit of wrong info back in the day was to do very heavy side bends with dumbs. The guys from that era all have over developed obliques, Including me to some extent.Mistake #2 bench then bench then bench again. Now we all have shoulder pain. Use those dumbs and do inclines.After all we are not power lifters. So why did we always keep trying to bench more and more? It seemed to be the gauge of progress. WRONG..the mirror is. There was no pct, so everyone tapered down. The thinking was that if the last 3 weeks was just 200mg test then we were gradually restoring. Wrong.All we were doing was prolonging our test coming back. I can say that it always did seem to restore itself.It is a big mistake to use so much weight that you hurt yourself for your latter years. Use form,concentration,focus..feel each rep. Another mistake that is still somewhat prevalent today is that as the gear kicks in we use too too much weight. Problem is our muscles are getting stronger but our tendons that hold that muscle in place are not. You leave yourself open for lots of tendonitis.

I agree with you completely. The bench press has become the ego lift in my opinion, and the movement itself does nothing but fuck you up if you go too heavy. My shoulder lets me know every time I try to bench heavy. I don't bench press at all anymore. I do a lot of DM movements, Smith machine, incline, and machine movements like hammer strength for size and strength now

 

[DylanGemelli]

The first bit of wrong info back in the day was to do very heavy side bends with dumbs. The guys from that era all have over developed obliques, Including me to some extent.Mistake #2 bench then bench then bench again. Now we all have shoulder pain. Use those dumbs and do inclines.After all we are not power lifters. So why did we always keep trying to bench more and more? It seemed to be the gauge of progress. WRONG..the mirror is. There was no pct, so everyone tapered down. The thinking was that if the last 3 weeks was just 200mg test then we were gradually restoring. Wrong.All we were doing was prolonging our test coming back. I can say that it always did seem to restore itself.It is a big mistake to use so much weight that you hurt yourself for your latter years. Use form,concentration,focus..feel each rep. Another mistake that is still somewhat prevalent today is that as the gear kicks in we use too too much weight. Problem is our muscles are getting stronger but our tendons that hold that muscle in place are not. You leave yourself open for lots of tendonitis.

I remember in high school that the big question was always "how much do you bench?" that's all everyone ever asked or cared about for decades... I COULD GIVE A FUCK CARE LESS what ANYONE can bench.. it MEANS NOTHING unless you are competing for millions in a bench competition... JUST LIKE YOU SAID, it causes long term shoulder and rotator problems amongst other needless strain especially when maxing out.. it was just a misconception because that was all that was known.. that's the beauty of time and study but what also sucks about being in a learning phase... its all about taking experiences, learning and bettering ourselves...

 

[DylanGemelli]

The first bit of wrong info back in the day was to do very heavy side bends with dumbs. The guys from that era all have over developed obliques, Including me to some extent.Mistake #2 bench then bench then bench again. Now we all have shoulder pain. Use those dumbs and do inclines.After all we are not power lifters. So why did we always keep trying to bench more and more? It seemed to be the gauge of progress. WRONG..the mirror is. There was no pct, so everyone tapered down. The thinking was that if the last 3 weeks was just 200mg test then we were gradually restoring. Wrong.All we were doing was prolonging our test coming back. I can say that it always did seem to restore itself.It is a big mistake to use so much weight that you hurt yourself for your latter years. Use form,concentration,focus..feel each rep. Another mistake that is still somewhat prevalent today is that as the gear kicks in we use too too much weight. Problem is our muscles are getting stronger but our tendons that hold that muscle in place are not. You leave yourself open for lots of tendonitis.

I learned the best advice from kai green. That was forget the benches and forget the weight. Its all about muscle concentration and isolation exercises for chest. He said if u can't do 20 reps then ur goin too heavy. The average guy thinks growth comes from heavy weights n low reps. Once I switched to his method ive had explosive chest gains..forget about 225/315/405 ect. Damn the weight. When people ask me whaddaya bench, im like idk..I dont use flat bench anymore. I use incline bench. But dumb bells and machines for every thing else and Im having incredible results

I have been preaching this since the year 2000 but so many did not believe in this method... there is too many that only care about throwing around a million pounds with horrible form and ultimately hurting yourself... THATS NOT how you get size and structure... What you said is so spot on... My eyes got wide when I read your post because its EXACTLY what I preach and mainly how I train... of course I implement hypertrophy style training in the 8-10 rep range with higher weights but i would say 70% of my training is slower, controlled and volume type that really dig in and focus, shape and grow... its all about implementing and adding different pieces but throwing around as much weight as possible for your only method is more detrimental than anything...