First Cycle

[tathalts]

Hello Dylan just wanted to start of saying I'm a subscriber and I enjoy watching all of your videos and listening to all the information you have to say. I appreciate a no bullshit demeanor where you say what I need to hear rather than what I want to hear.
So I'm starting my first cycle I competed in December in a Novice bodybuilding class and earned second place. I have been training for almost 5 years and have been doing over a years worth of research on steroids, serms, sarms, peptides, and pct protocols. My diet is great and I usually stay around 10% on the off season and dial in to about 6% contest ready. I've laid out my first cycle and would greatly appreciate it if you critiqued it and offered your honest opinion.

Week 1-12 Test E 500 mg a week (250mg twice a week)
Week 1-6 Tbol 60mg a day (30mg morning 30mg evening)
Week 1-12 Proviron 50mg a day
Week 1-14 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Week 1-6 Cel Cycle Assist

PCT
Weeks 15-18
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
GW-501516 30mg a day

Bridge after PCT
LGD 20 mg a day
S4 50mg a day
GW 30mg a day

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hello Dylan just wanted to start of saying I'm a subscriber and I enjoy watching all of your videos and listening to all the information you have to say. I appreciate a no bullshit demeanor where you say what I need to hear rather than what I want to hear.
So I'm starting my first cycle I competed in December in a Novice bodybuilding class and earned second place. I have been training for almost 5 years and have been doing over a years worth of research on steroids, serms, sarms, peptides, and pct protocols. My diet is great and I usually stay around 10% on the off season and dial in to about 6% contest ready. I've laid out my first cycle and would greatly appreciate it if you critiqued it and offered your honest opinion.

Week 1-12 Test E 500 mg a week (250mg twice a week)
Week 1-6 Tbol 60mg a day (30mg morning 30mg evening)
Week 1-12 Proviron 50mg a day
Week 1-14 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Week 1-6 Cel Cycle Assist

PCT
Weeks 15-18
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
GW-501516 30mg a day

Bridge after PCT
LGD 20 mg a day
S4 50mg a day
GW 30mg a day

hey bro, your on the right track but i need more info from you to properly help.. also, on a first cycle you would want to go with test only and then possibly add some sarms... you can add an oral but its not the wisest thing to do when first starting out... its best to keep it to one anabolic compound..

what are your full stats? age/height/weight/body fat? what are your specific goals from the cycle?

 

[RickRock]

Your cycle setup looks pretty good for the most part. I'd also make sure you have MK-2866 in Pct.

We still need your full stats and goals for the cycle so we can advise you properly


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[tathalts]

Stats:
Age:21 (little young but I understand the health risks etc I have thought this over and made my decision)
Height: 5'11"
Weight:195 at 10% body fat (like to stay leaner in off season it only makes cutting more efficient)
My goal on this first cycle is to add quality muscle in the off-season while still staying fairly lean (recomp)

 

[cmb5017]

Go take a look at the "erectile dysfunction" thread..U gonna end up the same way

 

[jp1957]

If you go with a kick ass sarms stack (lgd, s4, rad, gw, osta and mk677), you can pack on a shitload of muscle without the endocrine issues

 

[DylanGemelli]

Stats:
Age:21 (little young but I understand the health risks etc I have thought this over and made my decision)
Height: 5'11"
Weight:195 at 10% body fat (like to stay leaner in off season it only makes cutting more efficient)
My goal on this first cycle is to add quality muscle in the off-season while still staying fairly lean (recomp)

just like you make your decision, we all make ours so good luck to you... noone here is going to advise any such absurd shit whatsoever... your going to learn a hard one but hey, what do i know. ive only been doing this a decade but you read some google and know more... you've see what myself and so many others here have either seen or already went through... have fun learning the hard way

 

[tathalts]

I don't find this absurd. I'm looking for help on making this a safe yet successful first cycle and so far I haven't gotten that. I don't understand why you wouldn't rather help someone (as you mention in your videos) do it safely and correctly. I compete against guys that have been taking steroids for years it seems almost necessary to start taking in order to stay at a competitive level. I'm not doing this for a girl I'm doing this because I bodybuild. I know my own body well and have diet, sleep, and training in check. I realize 25 is the optimal minimum age of starting a cycle because of endocrine and HPTA development. At 21 I think it isn't much of any issue as I seem to have gone through puberty at an early age. Just want help so I can do this safely and correctly.

 

[DylanGemelli]

it is absurd... its beyond absurd... noone is contributing to this so stop man... if you think you know so much since you have such a big background in this and know more than guys that have been doing this over a decade and SEEN IT ALL, then go ahead.... im so fucking sick and tired of guys like you that are just starting out that KNOW MORE than guys doing this half their lives.. GO FOR IT but NOONE is advising this bull shit!

 

[tathalts]

I never said I know more than you and I bet it's quite obvious. I don't have years of experience as this is my first cycle. All I wanted was help and I'm still confused why this is absurd. Am I too young to be starting or what? Instead of saying this is just bullshit why don't you try and teach and help. Im here to learn and I want to hear what you have to say because of your extensive knowledge and experience. If you don't think I'm ready then say why and advice when an appropriate time to start would be.

 

[jp1957]

How many times do you need to be told you are too young? After 25, come hit us up

 

[RickRock]

I don't find this absurd. I'm looking for help on making this a safe yet successful first cycle and so far I haven't gotten that. I don't understand why you wouldn't rather help someone (as you mention in your videos) do it safely and correctly. I compete against guys that have been taking steroids for years it seems almost necessary to start taking in order to stay at a competitive level. I'm not doing this for a girl I'm doing this because I bodybuild. I know my own body well and have diet, sleep, and training in check. I realize 25 is the optimal minimum age of starting a cycle because of endocrine and HPTA development. At 21 I think it isn't much of any issue as I seem to have gone through puberty at an early age. Just want help so I can do this safely and correctly.

Come on man. This is a marathon not a sprint. You are too young....period. I trained naturally for 20 years! Almost as long as you have been alive. My first cycle was at 35! There are a lot of issues cycling at your age. When you go messing with your body's chemistry early you set yourself up for potential long term problems

 

[DylanGemelli]

your extremely too young... and you already know it...

The issue: The problems with individuals that had not yet attained full physio-sexual development, is that that anabolic compounds are acting on locations within the central nervous system that are still under development. That is, that many receptors that are activated by Testosterone are STILL performing developmental functions, and you are stimulating them before they had the chance to fully create a working framework of hormonal balance that would sustain you for the rest of your adult life. you just go ahead and do what you will... ive seen thousands, yes thousands of regretful people that used steroids at your age... you are in charge of YOU... just understand this, you need to be prepared to likely be on trt the rest of your life starting this young and doing that to yourself before your fully developed, its not going to bode well in your 30's and beyond...

 

[buen]

your here asking for help making a safe cycle..unfortunately a safe cycle at your age is not possible

And because no one here will contribute to you harming yourself....you make your own decisions ....you have the advise of knowledgeable users...you ask for help but don't like the answers...tough ....grow the fuck up

 

[tathalts]

I understand thank you RickRock

 

[RickRock]

I understand thank you RickRock

Anytime bro.


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[AimArnold]

I understand thank you RickRock

Bro, please understand. Its just like asking us to help you destroy yourself and as much as I know, these people won't let it happen. Till then run a sarms cycle. They are also almost as effective as steroids and have least sides. Sarms are also good enough for you age.

 

[tathalts]

Thank you all for your knowledge and experience. I respect all of you looking out for me and helping in the ways you did.