EQ Question
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frontload? why on earth would you frontload bro? it is not going to make any difference and you are ultimately just wasting eq for no reason... what are your stats? age/height/weight/body fat... cycle history? goals?
also, running eq for 12 weeks is rather pointless... its a very long ester that does not even begin to really start working until week 8 or 9... it needs to be ran a minimum 16 weeks...
Just because you are 30 doesn't mean you are ready... age is irrelevant, if you don't have a solid foundation you are not ready. If your diet sucks you are not ready. If you have no clue what you are doing and have done minimal research you are not ready. Doesn't matter if you're 30, 50, 60, 90, 100...
You can frontload any ester of any compound all you want, it's not going to do anything. If you run eq for 12 weeks you're going to be disappointed. Like Dylan said, minimum 16 weeks... for me 20, that's just how it is.
Front loading is both completely unnecessary and actually counter productive. All it does is raise your myostatin levels quicker which will end up halting your gains quicker earlier in the cycle. Just run your normal EQ dose from the start and get a slow rise in blood levels as intended.
Is this your first cycle? What is your stats, goals, and experience?
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Dorin76
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Frontloading will do nothing for your cycle except waste resources and cost money. EQ (Boldenone) Will need 16 week minimum and I found I needed 20. You do not really see or feel results until you get to week 6 and past there. You need to build up the rester in you body to increase your endurance and you can not do that by frontloading it.
as you can see, there is a consensus on frontloading, basically showing and indicating how pointless that it is... its a "bro" topic that is widely misunderstood... also, as bigsteve pointed out... just because you are in your 30's DOES NOT mean in any way you are ready for any of this.. clearly you are at the right age but that's a small fraction of the necessary areas needed to be in check to use anabolics. please let me know the answers to the questions i asked so i can properly guide you..
I just switched out EQ for NPP
Post #3 by BigSteve5776 is pointless post, don’t run your mouth with attitude to me with a lecture open your eyes “ive been lifting for years” Also I don’t have to run my stats by some little boy for his approval for me to run gear. Especially when you create a thread called “Mind your own fucking business” and first few sentences are “So here it is... It's my fucking life, if I want to fucking do steroids that is my call not yours. Leave me the fuck alone.”
My question was in regard to Frontloading and EQ so that I could fit it into a normal 12 week cycle stick to that.
So what am I looking for?
Experiences who has frontloaded, what did they experience
Has anyone frontloaded EQ
Not your bro science opinion. Looking for what have you actually tried.
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here's was a sources logic:
Testosterone Cypionate 's half-life is 8 days (Davis’s Drug Guide for Nurses 9th Ed.)
For simplicity, let's assume a dosage of 500mg Test Cyp pinned every 8 days
Day 1 – 500mg (remember that the bioavailability at this point is 0 because it takes 8 days to metabolize 250mg, and this will be true for every dose that follows)
Day 9 – 500mg (remember what was stated on day 1), so at this point you have 250mg remaining in the body from day 1 because your body has used 250mg over the past 8 days)
Day 17 – 500mg, at this point you have 250 from Day 9 and 125 from day 1 (don’t confuse yourself here, the body does not process 250mg every 8 days, it simply reduces the remaining by half every 8 days)
Day 25 – 500mg, at this point you have 250mg from Day 17, 125 from Day 9, and now just 62.5 remaining from day 1
Day 33 – 500mg, at this point you have 250mg from Day 25, 125 from Day 17, 62.5 from Day 9, and 31.7 from day 1.
The easy way to keep going on with this formula is to take the smallest number (31.7 in this case) and reduce it by half, then add it to your existing numbers for the total, and then repeat.
The total looks like this:
The first 8 days your body will metabolize 250mg
The second 8 days your body will metabolize half of the remaining 250 (125) and half of the 500 (250) administered on day 9 for a total of 375.
The third 8 days your body will metabolize 250, 125, and 62.5 for a total of 437.5. This is one reason it takes a couple of weeks to start noticing the effects of this drug.
To keep figuring out the bioavailability just keep reducing your smallest number by half and adding it to the total as described earlier.
Here is a chart demonstrating the bioavailability and how long it takes to even reach that 500mg per 8 day mark. For this demonstration we will use 8 days for 1 wk.
Wk 1 – 250mg
Wk 2 – 375mg
Wk 3 – 437.5mg
Wk 4 – 469.2mg
Wk 5 – 485mg
Wk 6 – 492.9mg
Wk 7 – 496.8mg
Wk 8 – 498.7mg
And so on….
So what does all this mean? Well for one it brings up a very important issue of frontloading. To frontload, you simply double your weekly dose just for that first week. It would look like this:
Wk 1 – 1000mg Cyp
Wk 2 – 500mg Cyp
Wk 3 – 500mg Cyp
And continue on at the normal 500mg/wk
The way this works is simple, during week 1 your body will metabolize 500mg of the first dose leaving you with 500 remaining. The second week your body will metabolize 250mg from the first dose and also 250 from the second dose for a total of 500. Now do you see how beneficial frontloading really is? You will stay constant at 500mg/wk throughout your cycle instead of tapering up by not frontloading.
Post #3 by BigSteve5776 is pointless post, don’t run your mouth with attitude to me with a lecture open your eyes “ive been lifting for years” Also I don’t have to run my stats by some little boy for his approval for me to run gear. Especially when you create a thread called “Mind your own fucking business” and first few sentences are “So here it is... It's my fucking life, if I want to fucking do steroids that is my call not yours. Leave me the fuck alone.”
My question was in regard to Frontloading and EQ so that I could fit it into a normal 12 week cycle stick to that.
So what am I looking for?
Experiences who has frontloaded, what did they experience
Has anyone frontloaded EQ
Not your bro science opinion. Looking for what have you actually tried.
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here's was a sources logic:
Testosterone Cypionate 's half-life is 8 days (Davis’s Drug Guide for Nurses 9th Ed.)
For simplicity, let's assume a dosage of 500mg Test Cyp pinned every 8 days
Day 1 – 500mg (remember that the bioavailability at this point is 0 because it takes 8 days to metabolize 250mg, and this will be true for every dose that follows)
Day 9 – 500mg (remember what was stated on day 1), so at this point you have 250mg remaining in the body from day 1 because your body has used 250mg over the past 8 days)
Day 17 – 500mg, at this point you have 250 from Day 9 and 125 from day 1 (don’t confuse yourself here, the body does not process 250mg every 8 days, it simply reduces the remaining by half every 8 days)
Day 25 – 500mg, at this point you have 250mg from Day 17, 125 from Day 9, and now just 62.5 remaining from day 1
Day 33 – 500mg, at this point you have 250mg from Day 25, 125 from Day 17, 62.5 from Day 9, and 31.7 from day 1.
The easy way to keep going on with this formula is to take the smallest number (31.7 in this case) and reduce it by half, then add it to your existing numbers for the total, and then repeat.
The total looks like this:
The first 8 days your body will metabolize 250mg
The second 8 days your body will metabolize half of the remaining 250 (125) and half of the 500 (250) administered on day 9 for a total of 375.
The third 8 days your body will metabolize 250, 125, and 62.5 for a total of 437.5. This is one reason it takes a couple of weeks to start noticing the effects of this drug.
To keep figuring out the bioavailability just keep reducing your smallest number by half and adding it to the total as described earlier.
Here is a chart demonstrating the bioavailability and how long it takes to even reach that 500mg per 8 day mark. For this demonstration we will use 8 days for 1 wk.
Wk 1 – 250mg
Wk 2 – 375mg
Wk 3 – 437.5mg
Wk 4 – 469.2mg
Wk 5 – 485mg
Wk 6 – 492.9mg
Wk 7 – 496.8mg
Wk 8 – 498.7mg
And so on….
So what does all this mean? Well for one it brings up a very important issue of frontloading. To frontload, you simply double your weekly dose just for that first week. It would look like this:
Wk 1 – 1000mg Cyp
Wk 2 – 500mg Cyp
Wk 3 – 500mg Cyp
And continue on at the normal 500mg/wk
The way this works is simple, during week 1 your body will metabolize 500mg of the first dose leaving you with 500 remaining. The second week your body will metabolize 250mg from the first dose and also 250 from the second dose for a total of 500. Now do you see how beneficial frontloading really is? You will stay constant at 500mg/wk throughout your cycle instead of tapering up by not frontloading.
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DTA707
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You say you don't want bro science then post some bro science copy pasta. Like everyone said, frontloading is pointless, like Rick said, it will raise your myostatin levels faster(science). Not quite sure how you came to switch out the longest ester for one of the shortest but OK.
How bout those stats, bud
BigBusiness
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12 weeks is pointless with EQ it has one of the longest esters. Comparing cyp to Eq ester wise is the difference between night and day. Doesn't matter if you try to front load or not it still isn't hitting you till week 6 or 7
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Dorin76
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I dont see how! I did not really feel it until I went into the 800mg a week range!
Then it began to take hold! I personally like long esters. I try Tren Ace my first time just since side effects many report can be hard, but am lucky to not have any of those! Short ester Boldenone (EQ) is now available, but I have no experience with this. I do know there is no point on front load of EQ! All you will do is waste money! Abd it will not get into system of yours any faster! There is no short cut with long ester EQ! You just have to pin regular, workout and wait!
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In my opinion it isn't worth running under about 600mg per week
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300 is a waste, a joke and pointless... 600 is the bare minimum but personally, i dont even consider it under 800...
MaxxPursuit
Senior Member
I'm sure people have but 300mg of eq is nothing. Run it at least 600mg a week.
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everyone ive ever seen run that results in one of two things... 1. them bitching about "not responding" to eq... i wonder why 2. bumping it to where it should be ran and seeing the change...
MaxxPursuit
Senior Member
Yep and thats why you dont hear about people running eq that low. Not worth it.
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not at all.. its very very rare... the common mistake i see is people running it too short as well... it needs to be ran 16 weeks MINIMUM
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Dorin76
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Absolutely Dylan! Abd for me? 20 weeks was better!
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