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Decided to skip the SARMS and go for the cycle

elroberto

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Right, after doing much reading up I've decided to change my plans and go on cycle first then SARMS later. I've got 10 months to prepare for my powerlifting meet (qualifier for UK nationals) and am going to do 12 weeks on/PCT/12 weeks off/Start cycle for meet.

My stats:
Height 6ft 2
Currently 295 lb
Aiming to cut down to around 240-245lb for my weight class (need to be at 242 lbs for that so can do a small water drop if necessary to make weight)
Current Body fat level: Unknown, but my bathroom scales say 29% (I know these aren't always accurate)

Previous cycles. Orals only. 6 weeks Tbol (loved it), then a later 6 week Dbol run (not a fan).

This time I will be pinning.

What I'm thinking is :-

Weeks 1-6 TBol 50 mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test Enanthate 600mg split in two doses
Weeks 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Weeks 1-12 GW 20 mg ED taken pre workout or pre cardio on rest days
Weeks 10-12 HCG 1500 IU per week
PCT of Nolva/Clomid/Proviron for 6 weeks (what dosages would be best to run these at?)

During this period will be doing 25-30 minutes fasted cardio first thing upon waking and following keto diet. At that Body fat level I should be able to gain muscle while still burning fat. I know it's not normally recommended for guys of my size to go on cycle but obviously my goals are a bit different.

Quick question though, I've only put Test E as an injectable as it's my first pinning run. Would anyone recommend a 2nd compound to pin if I reduced test back to 300 EW?

And any thoughts on what to go for with my meet cycle (emphasis there would be on strength increases more than size)?

Look forward to hearing your thoughts guys.



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Everything look's nice bro. If you have enough i would run proviron from day one of cycle. For a first pin-cycle you dont need multiple injectable's. Stick with one so you figure out how you react to this compound and then you can stack in a later cycle. It's hard to assess anything if your stacking as a firstimer.
 
Wait. Your body fat is 29%? If you are anywhere close to that you shouldnt even attempt a cycle.


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elroberto said:
Right, after doing much reading up I've decided to change my plans and go on cycle first then SARMS later. I've got 10 months to prepare for my powerlifting meet (qualifier for UK nationals) and am going to do 12 weeks on/PCT/12 weeks off/Start cycle for meet.

My stats:
Height 6ft 2
Currently 295 lb
Aiming to cut down to around 240-245lb for my weight class (need to be at 242 lbs for that so can do a small water drop if necessary to make weight)
Current Body fat level: Unknown, but my bathroom scales say 29% (I know these aren't always accurate)

Previous cycles. Orals only. 6 weeks Tbol (loved it), then a later 6 week Dbol run (not a fan).

This time I will be pinning.

What I'm thinking is :-

Weeks 1-6 TBol 50 mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test Enanthate 600mg split in two doses
Weeks 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Weeks 1-12 GW 20 mg ED taken pre workout or pre cardio on rest days
Weeks 10-12 HCG 1500 IU per week
PCT of Nolva/Clomid/Proviron for 6 weeks (what dosages would be best to run these at?)

During this period will be doing 25-30 minutes fasted cardio first thing upon waking and following keto diet. At that Body fat level I should be able to gain muscle while still burning fat. I know it's not normally recommended for guys of my size to go on cycle but obviously my goals are a bit different.

Quick question though, I've only put Test E as an injectable as it's my first pinning run. Would anyone recommend a 2nd compound to pin if I reduced test back to 300 EW?

And any thoughts on what to go for with my meet cycle (emphasis there would be on strength increases more than size)?

Look forward to hearing your thoughts guys.



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I would strongly suggest cutting down A LOT, before starting the cycle. Your bodyfat is just extremely high, and it will put a lot of undue health stress on your body while cycling. And adding another compound is just not an option right now. Test only for a first injectibles cycle, and you really shouldnt even be running that without getting into better shape. I know powerlifters typically carry more bodyfat, and I understand that, but I would still like to see you get into better shape first. Cycling at higher bodyfat means less gains as well, because of more aromatization into estrogen and less test for muscle building. The leaner you are the more you will gain. That's just how it is.

I think you have things in reverse. I would recommend starting a sarms stack FIRST, and utilizing that while dropping bodyfat. Then run a cycle later on when you are in a better shape
 
Re: RE: Re: Decided to skip the SARMS and go for the cycle

RickRock said:
elroberto said:
Right, after doing much reading up I've decided to change my plans and go on cycle first then SARMS later. I've got 10 months to prepare for my powerlifting meet (qualifier for UK nationals) and am going to do 12 weeks on/PCT/12 weeks off/Start cycle for meet.

My stats:
Height 6ft 2
Currently 295 lb
Aiming to cut down to around 240-245lb for my weight class (need to be at 242 lbs for that so can do a small water drop if necessary to make weight)
Current Body fat level: Unknown, but my bathroom scales say 29% (I know these aren't always accurate)

Previous cycles. Orals only. 6 weeks Tbol (loved it), then a later 6 week Dbol run (not a fan).

This time I will be pinning.

What I'm thinking is :-

Weeks 1-6 TBol 50 mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test Enanthate 600mg split in two doses
Weeks 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Weeks 1-12 GW 20 mg ED taken pre workout or pre cardio on rest days
Weeks 10-12 HCG 1500 IU per week
PCT of Nolva/Clomid/Proviron for 6 weeks (what dosages would be best to run these at?)

During this period will be doing 25-30 minutes fasted cardio first thing upon waking and following keto diet. At that Body fat level I should be able to gain muscle while still burning fat. I know it's not normally recommended for guys of my size to go on cycle but obviously my goals are a bit different.

Quick question though, I've only put Test E as an injectable as it's my first pinning run. Would anyone recommend a 2nd compound to pin if I reduced test back to 300 EW?

And any thoughts on what to go for with my meet cycle (emphasis there would be on strength increases more than size)?

Look forward to hearing your thoughts guys.



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I would strongly suggest cutting down A LOT, before starting the cycle. Your bodyfat is just extremely high, and it will out a lot of undue health stress on your body while cycling. And adding another compound is just not an option right now. Test only for a first injectibles cycle, and you really should t even be running that without getting into better shape. I know powerlifters typically carry more bodyfat,mane I understand that,Mobutu I would still like to see you get into better shape first. Cycling at higher bodyfat means less gains as well, because of more aromatization into estrogen and less test for muscle building.mthe leaner you are the more you will gain. That's just how it is.

I think you have things in reverse. I would recommend starting a sarms stack FIRST, and utilizing that while dropping bodyfat. Then run a cycle later on when you are in a better shape
This is exactly what I did. I was close to the exact same size. I was 6'3" 300#s and about 25% bf. I started a cut using nothing for about 8 weeks and dropped down to 280 and about 17% bf with only diet, training and cardio. Then I started an lgd, s4, gw cycle and now 8 weeks later I'm at 264 and about 12% bf. I am just now getting ready to start my first test cycle and I'm extremely glad I waited and went this route. I feel great and I look better than I have ever looked in my life right now and I haven't even started my cycle yet. You should definitely cut down before you even think about using aas.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Decided to skip the SARMS and go for the cycle

ibleedoranbla said:
RickRock said:
"elroberto" said:
Right, after doing much reading up I've decided to change my plans and go on cycle first then SARMS later. I've got 10 months to prepare for my powerlifting meet (qualifier for UK nationals) and am going to do 12 weeks on/PCT/12 weeks off/Start cycle for meet.

My stats:
Height 6ft 2
Currently 295 lb
Aiming to cut down to around 240-245lb for my weight class (need to be at 242 lbs for that so can do a small water drop if necessary to make weight)
Current Body fat level: Unknown, but my bathroom scales say 29% (I know these aren't always accurate)

Previous cycles. Orals only. 6 weeks Tbol (loved it), then a later 6 week Dbol run (not a fan).

This time I will be pinning.

What I'm thinking is :-

Weeks 1-6 TBol 50 mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test Enanthate 600mg split in two doses
Weeks 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Weeks 1-12 GW 20 mg ED taken pre workout or pre cardio on rest days
Weeks 10-12 HCG 1500 IU per week
PCT of Nolva/Clomid/Proviron for 6 weeks (what dosages would be best to run these at?)

During this period will be doing 25-30 minutes fasted cardio first thing upon waking and following keto diet. At that Body fat level I should be able to gain muscle while still burning fat. I know it's not normally recommended for guys of my size to go on cycle but obviously my goals are a bit different.

Quick question though, I've only put Test E as an injectable as it's my first pinning run. Would anyone recommend a 2nd compound to pin if I reduced test back to 300 EW?

And any thoughts on what to go for with my meet cycle (emphasis there would be on strength increases more than size)?

Look forward to hearing your thoughts guys.



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I would strongly suggest cutting down A LOT, before starting the cycle. Your bodyfat is just extremely high, and it will out a lot of undue health stress on your body while cycling. And adding another compound is just not an option right now. Test only for a first injectibles cycle, and you really should t even be running that without getting into better shape. I know powerlifters typically carry more bodyfat,mane I understand that,Mobutu I would still like to see you get into better shape first. Cycling at higher bodyfat means less gains as well, because of more aromatization into estrogen and less test for muscle building.mthe leaner you are the more you will gain. That's just how it is.

I think you have things in reverse. I would recommend starting a sarms stack FIRST, and utilizing that while dropping bodyfat. Then run a cycle later on when you are in a better shape
This is exactly what I did. I was close to the exact same size. I was 6'3" 300#s and about 25% bf. I started a cut using nothing for about 8 weeks and dropped down to 280 and about 17% bf with only diet, training and cardio. Then I started an lgd, s4, gw cycle and now 8 weeks later I'm at 264 and about 12% bf. I am just now getting ready to start my first test cycle and I'm extremely glad I waited and went this route. I feel great and I look better than I have ever looked in my life right now and I haven't even started my cycle yet. You should definitely cut down before you even think about using aas.

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Shit, yea if your bf's at 29% you should'nt even think about cycling. Read threw your post abit fast. Sorry 'bout that man.. you should get your bf measured properly. My bathroom scale show's a lean 27% bf lol, but in reallity im around 7%.
 
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Decided to skip the SARMS and go for the cycle

ibleedoranbla said:
RickRock said:
"elroberto" said:
Right, after doing much reading up I've decided to change my plans and go on cycle first then SARMS later. I've got 10 months to prepare for my powerlifting meet (qualifier for UK nationals) and am going to do 12 weeks on/PCT/12 weeks off/Start cycle for meet.

My stats:
Height 6ft 2
Currently 295 lb
Aiming to cut down to around 240-245lb for my weight class (need to be at 242 lbs for that so can do a small water drop if necessary to make weight)
Current Body fat level: Unknown, but my bathroom scales say 29% (I know these aren't always accurate)

Previous cycles. Orals only. 6 weeks Tbol (loved it), then a later 6 week Dbol run (not a fan).

This time I will be pinning.

What I'm thinking is :-

Weeks 1-6 TBol 50 mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test Enanthate 600mg split in two doses
Weeks 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Weeks 1-12 GW 20 mg ED taken pre workout or pre cardio on rest days
Weeks 10-12 HCG 1500 IU per week
PCT of Nolva/Clomid/Proviron for 6 weeks (what dosages would be best to run these at?)

During this period will be doing 25-30 minutes fasted cardio first thing upon waking and following keto diet. At that Body fat level I should be able to gain muscle while still burning fat. I know it's not normally recommended for guys of my size to go on cycle but obviously my goals are a bit different.

Quick question though, I've only put Test E as an injectable as it's my first pinning run. Would anyone recommend a 2nd compound to pin if I reduced test back to 300 EW?

And any thoughts on what to go for with my meet cycle (emphasis there would be on strength increases more than size)?

Look forward to hearing your thoughts guys.



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I would strongly suggest cutting down A LOT, before starting the cycle. Your bodyfat is just extremely high, and it will out a lot of undue health stress on your body while cycling. And adding another compound is just not an option right now. Test only for a first injectibles cycle, and you really should t even be running that without getting into better shape. I know powerlifters typically carry more bodyfat,mane I understand that,Mobutu I would still like to see you get into better shape first. Cycling at higher bodyfat means less gains as well, because of more aromatization into estrogen and less test for muscle building.mthe leaner you are the more you will gain. That's just how it is.

I think you have things in reverse. I would recommend starting a sarms stack FIRST, and utilizing that while dropping bodyfat. Then run a cycle later on when you are in a better shape
This is exactly what I did. I was close to the exact same size. I was 6'3" 300#s and about 25% bf. I started a cut using nothing for about 8 weeks and dropped down to 280 and about 17% bf with only diet, training and cardio. Then I started an lgd, s4, gw cycle and now 8 weeks later I'm at 264 and about 12% bf. I am just now getting ready to start my first test cycle and I'm extremely glad I waited and went this route. I feel great and I look better than I have ever looked in my life right now and I haven't even started my cycle yet. You should definitely cut down before you even think about using aas.

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elroberto said:
Right, after doing much reading up I've decided to change my plans and go on cycle first then SARMS later. I've got 10 months to prepare for my powerlifting meet (qualifier for UK nationals) and am going to do 12 weeks on/PCT/12 weeks off/Start cycle for meet.

My stats:
Height 6ft 2
Currently 295 lb
Aiming to cut down to around 240-245lb for my weight class (need to be at 242 lbs for that so can do a small water drop if necessary to make weight)
Current Body fat level: Unknown, but my bathroom scales say 29% (I know these aren't always accurate)

Previous cycles. Orals only. 6 weeks Tbol (loved it), then a later 6 week Dbol run (not a fan).

This time I will be pinning.

What I'm thinking is :-

Weeks 1-6 TBol 50 mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test Enanthate 600mg split in two doses
Weeks 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Weeks 1-12 GW 20 mg ED taken pre workout or pre cardio on rest days
Weeks 10-12 HCG 1500 IU per week
PCT of Nolva/Clomid/Proviron for 6 weeks (what dosages would be best to run these at?)

During this period will be doing 25-30 minutes fasted cardio first thing upon waking and following keto diet. At that Body fat level I should be able to gain muscle while still burning fat. I know it's not normally recommended for guys of my size to go on cycle but obviously my goals are a bit different.

Quick question though, I've only put Test E as an injectable as it's my first pinning run. Would anyone recommend a 2nd compound to pin if I reduced test back to 300 EW?

And any thoughts on what to go for with my meet cycle (emphasis there would be on strength increases more than size)?

Look forward to hearing your thoughts guys.



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as others have pointed out bro, your doing this completely backwards... this has huge mistake and disaster written all over it and unfortunately your just going to have to learn the hard way if your intent on running this... STEROIDS ARE NOT FAT BURNERS AND YOUR BODY FAT IS OVER DOUBLE WHERE IT SHOULD BE FOR STEROID USE... your not only not going to drop the weight your wanting, especially with tbol and test etc but your going to hurt yourself... why would you want to do this to yourself? I am so lost on this... brother do you realize how bad your body fat is? its basically obese... im not trying to be insulting, im trying to make you look and realize just what exactly you are doing here and its very very bad bro... not onyly that, its a very poor example to set for others...
 
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