Cycle help for Old School!


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I just received my SARMS from Sarms4Sale and I am impressed, so far, with the excellent delivery time. They sent S23 which I did not order and omitted the S4. Anyway, no problem I will address that issue on my next order.

I am requesting help with my stack and I will provide all the goals and salient facts below.

I am 65 yrs old, 5?10?, weighting 210, at least 25 lbs overweight and I quit working out due to stress a year and a half ago. Along with drinking, I started smoking again on top of an inappropriate diet. The novelty of feeling like shit has worn-off and I am ready to feel the great again. I am squeaky clean, disciplined and diet is strict when I start these journeys.

For the 2 or 3 years before this time-out from working out I felt fantastic. I was taking Test Cyp 200 mg a week, 3iu HGH and Aromasin 12.5 mgs every other day. I was dating a 39 yr old active blond, so a ton of Viagra and Cialis became a much needed staple in life! (I purchased as always from sponsors on this site.)

1. The Sarms I received today are GW-501516, MK-2866, S23, SR-9009 & RAD-140. I am ordering more today before the sale ends. I will also order Test Cyp so it will not be included in cycle until receipt thereof.
2. Since I am ordering Test Cyp I do not mind including another injectable steroid if it would enhance my goals. I have always wanted to try Primobolan, since Dylan mentioned it is one of his favorites, but the results had better be there due to the high price. Or do I wait on injectables since my BF is higher than usual?
3. I have eliminated HGH since I have a family history of lung cancer. With sore joints I was wondering in MK-677 would be appropriate?
4. I have a handicapped liver from hepatitis 20-years ago, so I am very liver friendly cognizant. Would N2Guard be the supplement you would recommend?
5. I just ran out today of Marine Collagen Peptides w/MSM a 4.4lb container, expensive, but I feel was an exceptionally good product. FYI
6. Sarmsforsale does not have Aromasin and I think I saw where you recommended Norvadex Liquid Nolva 40MG/ml. Would this be an acceptable substitute?

I apologize for the length of the above, but I have never been able to make a long story short! I sincerely appreciate all considerations shown in coming up with my much-anticipated cycle.
I would hold off on steroids and get your body fat down first... stick with sarms for now

you absolutely can use mk677 instead of hgh and that would be a much better option for you in general... stick with 25 mg per day before bed...

i would go with dga organ st for your all in one...

sarmsforsale has arimidex, nolvadex and letrozole in stock right now... i recommend either clomid or nolvadex for pct with sarms.. you dont need an ai with sarms... they do not convert to estrogen so that would not be necessary...
+1 stick with sarms to start you have a plenty healthy stack if you are going to run those all together.

At 65 have you had your test levels checked? I mean if you ran steroid cycles for a while you may need TRT?

If you do PCT then I?d def run clomid and nolva especially with s23 and rad140.
Blood work will be the fist step. You will likely be able to get TRT at 65 without a problem. I would definitely wait on the steroids for now too. Get those 25lbs off first. There will be lots of us here trying to lean down after this quarantine is over! People just sitting at home eating, lol.
let me know if you have any other quesitons

I appreciate the responses and assistance. I just ordered the Organ St and I am ordering bloodwork later tonight for Monday, for my baseline. I know my testosterone will be at the very bottom or minimum on the blood tests criteria?s. Instead of the women?s test I formerly used which included Testosterone, Serum (Total Only) after researching and getting up to date, I chose the Hormone Panel with PSA (F&T) from Quest Diagnostics. This added Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA), Free and Total. Price $89.99-15%= $76.49 This includes Testosterone, Male, IA (MALES ONLY) They did not answer their 800# and I was wondering if you or anyone knew the difference?

Knowing or feeling my testosterone level being low I plan on restarting Test Cyp. I plan a 12- or 16-week cycle. (What ever you recommend with sarms.) I started an inventory of sarms, not to obviously use all this first cycle, including GW-501516, MK-2866, S23, SR-9009, rad-140, MK-677 & S4.

Yes, I need your recommendation for a great cycle! My last questions, duration, 16 or 12 weeks. How much Test Cyp since a cycle vs. TRT? And I read where S23 should be used the last 8-weeks of a cycle. Viewed as a stronger S4, would I use S4 for a month then start S23?

Like Will Rogers said, ?there is no one stupider than a man speaking outside his field of expertise.? I do not know the best first cycle. What is a great cycle?

Thanks for your expertise!
at this point, if you are on trt, just stick with the trt dose with your sarms... there's no reason to be blasting test etc... so just stick with a trt dose... please be very specific on your goals and i'll tell you exactly what stack to go with
at this point, if you are on trt, just stick with the trt dose with your sarms... there's no reason to be blasting test etc... so just stick with a trt dose... please be very specific on your goals and i'll tell you exactly what stack to go with

Specific goals would be many but for starters; energy ? with a handicapped liver, I start every day with a 100lb backpack on.
Staying power or endurance. Mid afternoon I want to be active versus napping.
Strength ? the ability to continue working construction on my properties.
Soreness ? my body hurt, joints are sore, and I feel weak.

Like Dylan said I wouldn?t change your trt dose I?d keep it the same and add in sarms.
1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-8 S23 20 mg per day split doses?. 10 mg in the a.m. and 10 mg 10-12 hours later
1-12 mk677 (NUTROBAL) 25 mg day dosed once a day in the p.m.
1-12 sr9009 (STENABOLIC) 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
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