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Tomo85

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Hi guys,

I’m planning a head for my next cycle and would really appreciate your input/advice on the cycle. It will be my second cycle, first was Test C only and I’m currently in week 5 of my 6 week PCT.

I’ll start with my stats and goals.

Age – 32
Lifting 9 years
Height 5,11ft
Weight - 198 lbs
BF 12%
Goal – add good quality size/mass

So the plan is:

Tbol 1-6 40mg-60mg per day
Test C 1-12 350mg per week
Aromasin 1-12 or 1-16? 12.5mg EOD
LGD 1-12 10mg per day
EQ 1-16 600mg - 800mg per week


PCT
Clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
Nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
Organ ST weeks 1-6 and then last 4 weeks and in to PCT
MK 25mg per day – 4 weeks only
GW 20 per day

Is my layout and dosage ok?

Couple of things I’m unsure about, with Organ ST - would it be advisable to take during the first 6 weeks to help with TBOl sides and then the last 4 weeks of the cycle and then in to PCT?

The other question I have is with regards to aromasin, I know EQ doesn’t need an AI but would it be advisable to run Aromasin all the way through the cycle and PCT to help with the estogen build up from the test?
Lastly, how long should I wait after my last EQ injection before starting my PCT?

All thoughts and reccomendations welcome.

Thanks for reading
 

gian

Senior Member
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This cycle is very similar to the one I’m running right now... You should run test the entire 16 weeks bro... Tbol 60mg per day.. Aromasin from start to end...

This is how I would do it:

1-16 Test cyp 350mg per week
1-16 EQ 800mg per week
1-6 Tbol 60mg per day
1-6 Organ ST
1-12 LGD-4033 10mg per day
1-18 Aromasin 12.5mg eod
15-18 DGA Post CT

PCT 19-24
Clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
Nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
MK-2866 25 mg day (4 weeks)
GW-501516 20 mg day
Organ ST
 

RickRock

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Gian covered it perfectly bro. That's exactly how you want to run it.

Aro.asin needs ran the whole cycle straight through pct and test needs ran as long as EQ

Pct starts two weeks after last injection

Yes that is correct with organ ST. The whole time on tbol and then the end of the cycle and pct is perfect
 

DylanGemelli

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its close bro but needs some correction.. let me fix it for you but its very close... yes, you can definitely run organ st that way, absolutely...

1-16 test cyp 350 mg week
1-16 eq 800 mg week
1-18 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
15-18 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct
15-18 organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/


pct 19-24



when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day
 

Tomo85

Member
Member
Thanks for the feedback everyone, much appreciated. Gian how is the cycle treating you? Dylan, if my diet and training is on point, how much lean muscle do you think is possible from the cycle?
 
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MaxxPursuit

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It’s impossible to say how much gains can be made as everyone is different but I’ll say Test EQ Tbol is a damn good cycle. Don’t worry so much on how much you can gain, just focus on getting the most you can out of the cycle by keeping everything in check.
 

gian

Senior Member
Member
Thanks for the feedback everyone, much appreciated. Gian how is the cycle treating you? Dylan, if my diet and training is on point, how much lean muscle do you think I can expect from the cycle?

Hey bro.. I’m loving the cycle so far! The versatility makes EQ one of the top choices to use... vascularity on eq is amazing, pumps are amazing... Tbol gave me a tremendous amount of strength.. clearly the amount of gains you make depend on your training and especially your diet
 

ThepoManta

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Forgive me for saying this, but could it "hurt" to go even higher with the EQ?

Or is there not really more of a benefit using 1000mg for example, opposed to 800mg?
 

DylanGemelli

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theres no extra benefit running eq at a gram man but there will be more risk, thats for sure...
 

Tomo85

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I won’t be exceeding the recommended dosage... will keep between 6-800. Lol Dylan, I didn’t mean how much will I make personally. I know you can’t answer that. I just meant from your experience, what is the average you have seen, But it’s cool, I’m not going to focus too much on that. Just going to train hard and eat right, stay healthy and hopefully the rest will take care of itself.
 
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cbbram00

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Forgive me for saying this, but could it "hurt" to go even higher with the EQ?

Or is there not really more of a benefit using 1000mg for example, opposed to 800mg?
If it's your first EQ run there's no need to exceed 600-800.
 
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