VERY HIGH blood pressure from Steroids

[BbJp]

Hi guys,

Dylan thank you so much for your videos and this forum, I've reallly learned so much from you!

I started a cycle 4 weeks ago on a low dosages:
- Dbol 20mg/per day (4 weeks)
- Test En 300mg/per week
- Deca 350mg/per week

3 weeks into the cycle I started getting really bad headaches daily, after my 4th week I went to the doctor and he tested my blood pressure, it was 160/126. He said this was the cause of the headaches and gave me blood pressure tablets. It's been a week now and its dropped to 143/81 and I dont have headaches anymore. I've completely stopped my cycle and recovering now

I've done about 4 cycles before with the same compounds at much higher doses and experienced very little sides. I am on a strict diet and training 2 hours day

Previous cycle: (a year ago)
- Dbol 50mg/per day (5 weeks)
- Test En 750mg/per week
- Deca 700mg/per week

What did I do wrong to get the high BP, could it have been from the Dbols?
I'm a bit scared to get back on the gear again, any suggestions on running another without this happening again?

 

[SDKing]

How much cardio are you doing?

 

[BbJp]

To be honest I haven't done any cardio during this 4 weeks, where as on previous cycles I did about 15 miles of MTB on weekends. How much cardio a day would you suggest I should do to help prevent the high BP and not burn to much of my Cals with the bulk?

 

[RickRock]

THere are a lot of things that can bring on high blood pressure. First of all what are your stats? Anyone with even slightly elevated bodyfat will be more prone to blood pressure issues. Also you didn't list it, but are you taking an anti estrogen? You are on some wet aromatizing compounds with test, Deca, and Dbol and even though the dosages aren't high the water retention and estrogen rise from them can also impact blood pressure if it is not controlled

 

[TX TERROR]

That's not that high. Change up your diet cut whatever salt you can and add in cardio daily. Should fix it. If not you can try to supplement with hawthorn berry, coq10 and what not.

 

[TX TERROR]

No need to adjust calories very much just add in half those calories you burn in protein and you will be fine. Even bulking, cardio is good.

 

[cmb5017]

Damn I read the headline and thought u might had high blood pressure..160/125 ain't Shit...I know people on blood pressure meds that has higher than that . Until u pushing 200 it ain't high. Yea technically it's hypertension but Shit, walk a little,take some celery extract twice a day and it'll be gone in a few days .

 

[44YOGearHead]

Damn I read the headline and thought u might had high blood pressure..160/125 ain't Shit...I know people on blood pressure meds that has higher than that . Until u pushing 200 it ain't high. Yea technically it's hypertension but Shit, walk a little,take some celery extract twice a day and it'll be gone in a few days .

Lol mine was higher than that a few months ago and the doc said it was pre-hyper, but not that bad at all.

 

[NJBro]

I have been on BP meds for a long time now (20 yrs). I was "pre hypertensive" for about 2 yrs before the Dr put me on meds.
Through the process of getting the right dose dialed in we found that I was holding water and that was causing much of my issue.
So we added a water pill and I have not had to change my dose ever. Im at 120/80-85 and my heart is perfect.

My point is 3 wet compounds will obviously cause you to hold water. You need Aromasin and possibly a natural diuretic like Dandelion Root (Thank you Dylan!).
Once you get them on board I would bet you will be fine.

 

[EZ_E]

Probable causes:

Diet probably terrible
High bf
Diet probably terrible
No AI
Diet probably terrible
High rbc count
No cardio
Dehydrated
Diet probably terrible

 

[cmb5017]

Probable causes:

Diet probably terrible
High bf
Diet probably terrible
No AI
Diet probably terrible
High rbc count
No cardio
Dehydrated
Diet probably terrible

I go with......diet probably terrible lol

 

[RickRock]

Probable causes:

Diet probably terrible
High bf
Diet probably terrible
No AI
Diet probably terrible
High rbc count
No cardio
Dehydrated
Diet probably terrible

You forgot to mention diet is probably a bit off

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[Tazz]

probably from the dbol, and especially a shit diet on dbol, pfft, you will look like a balloon with high bp.

even when I use dbol I eat clean and still have high bp and bloody noses @20mg

 

[joonp]

Last cycle my bp was 206/102. That really sucked!! Had to lower tren dose and take baby aspirin. Went away shortly thereafter. The sides were terrible. Splitting headaches and always felt like i was sick

 

[DylanGemelli]

my thoughts are like that of everyone else with one exception... ARE YOU TAKING CYCLE SUPPORT WITH DBOL? you do realize its a methylated oral steroid right? Also, your estrogen levels are probably high, you have a lack of cardio and my speculation is your diet is not where it needs to be...

 

[EZ_E]

my thoughts are like that of everyone else with one exception... ARE YOU TAKING CYCLE SUPPORT WITH DBOL? you do realize its a methylated oral steroid right? Also, your estrogen levels are probably high, you have a lack of cardio and my speculation is your diet is not where it needs to be...

Also can we get some stats; ht, wt, bf%, age, etc....Unless I missed it?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Also can we get some stats; ht, wt, bf%, age, etc....Unless I missed it?

your right, we never got those either and that would be quite helpful as well..

 

[Gymjunkie38]

Providing your lean enough and you get diet on point ( simple sugars and high sodium) low dose cialis is awsome lower BP and crazy pumps and vascularity as a bonus .

 

[Trenbolone]

Even on 500mg tren per week my blood pressure stays in the normal-low range. I guess I am lucky because nothing I have taken elevates my blood pressure.

 

[RickRock]

Even on 500mg tren per week my blood pressure stays in the normal-low range. I guess I am lucky because nothing I have taken elevates my blood pressure.

Pretty much the same for me, but my diet is super clean, I stay very lean (6-8% bodyfat), and I do regular cardio about 4 days per week.