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    Successful PCT without SARMS ?

    Ive seen lot of people are starting to use SARMS in PCT... is there a way to have a successful PCT without SARMS ? and to keep most of my gains? im doing my research to start my first cycle of test E..blood work has already been done. but I want to make sure I have my PCT BEFORE HAND. any help from experienced brothers?

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    Well you will need an ai so id definitely use Aromasin during your cycle and for pct use clomid and nolvadex for 4 weeks about a week after last injection

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    Ok. I've definitely heard Clomid and nolvadex alot. Will this help me bring back my natural testosterone production and help aid me in keeping the gains I made on cycle?

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    Clomid*-*
    A selective estrogen receptor modulator used popularly in post cycle therapy due to its ability to promote natural testosterone production.

    Nolvadex*-*
    Also known as tamoxifen citrate, a selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM) that blocks estrogen from binding to its receptor in the body. It is used for estrogen control in cycles and the recovery of natural testosterone levels in post cycle therapy.

    So your answer is yes





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    Quote Originally Posted by JOJO562 View Post
    Ive seen lot of people are starting to use SARMS in PCT... is there a way to have a successful PCT without SARMS ? and to keep most of my gains? im doing my research to start my first cycle of test E..blood work has already been done. but I want to make sure I have my PCT BEFORE HAND. any help from experienced brothers?
    The sarm suggested here in your pct is for a purpose. The purpose for sarms in pct is to help you to continue to perform at a high level while the test is clearing out of your body which will help you to preserve your gains from being on cycle. Another thing the sarms do in pct is the control of cortisol which will spike during pct. cortisol as you may know will induce atrophy and promote fat gain, two things you don't want while trying to recover. Mk2866 should only be run for 4 weeks of pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carmel cowboy View Post
    The sarm suggested here in your pct is for a purpose. The purpose for sarms in pct is to help you to continue to perform at a high level while the test is clearing out of your body which will help you to preserve your gains from being on cycle. Another thing the sarms do in pct is the control of cortisol which will spike during pct. cortisol as you may know will induce atrophy and promote fat gain, two things you don't want while trying to recover. Mk2866 should only be run for 4 weeks of pct.
    Once again CC is right on the money with this one. It's just added to prevent loss of muscle help keeps gains and most importantly control cortisol.

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    I had the same questions about sarms in pct when I first got here. So I can understand you question and concern. If you look up the effects of mk2866 and GW50156 you will see the potential of there use in pct but once you actually use them in pct you want to do another pct without them. I purposely left GW out of my last cycle so I can run it during pct of 8 weeks and then continue for 4 more weeks. For me it has kept me lean and performing at a higher level then on cycle as far as endurance goes. Another great thing about GW in pct and after is the positive effects it has on cholesterol levels. As you may know being on cycle can elevate your cholesterol.

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    you can run whatever you want in pct... the issue is covering EVERYTHING thats necessary to address in pct... just nolva and clomid DOES NOT address everything ESPECIALLY cortisol which completely ruins the entire cycle... you can literally ruin everything by not addressing that ONE area alone... why do you think so many people FALSELY claim you cannot recover fully and you wont keep much of your gains? THEY DONT RUN A PROPER AND FULL PCT...

    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carmel cowboy View Post
    I had the same questions about sarms in pct when I first got here. So I can understand you question and concern. If you look up the effects of mk2866 and GW50156 you will see the potential of there use in pct but once you actually use them in pct you want to do another pct without them. I purposely left GW out of my last cycle so I can run it during pct of 8 weeks and then continue for 4 more weeks. For me it has kept me lean and performing at a higher level then on cycle as far as endurance goes. Another great thing about GW in pct and after is the positive effects it has on cholesterol levels. As you may know being on cycle can elevate your cholesterol.
    Ok so how exactly would you run the pct on a 16 week cycle of test e at 300 mg? U kinda confused me with the leaving it out part and running 8 weeks of pct. I just want to be safe and I want to make sure my hard work carries over with me after I cycle off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DylanGemelli View Post
    you can run whatever you want in pct... the issue is covering EVERYTHING thats necessary to address in pct... just nolva and clomid DOES NOT address everything ESPECIALLY cortisol which completely ruins the entire cycle... you can literally ruin everything by not addressing that ONE area alone... why do you think so many people FALSELY claim you cannot recover fully and you wont keep much of your gains? THEY DONT RUN A PROPER AND FULL PCT...

    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.

    Do you happen to offer just a PCT stack ? Definitely want to keep everything I gain on this cycle. I want to be completely prepared.

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