Planning up a Cycle for lean gains

[Abdul99]

So this is my first post on here and I’ve been checking the forum on consistent basis and honestly it’s a great community and helpful knowledge and it’s great to read your experiences..

I’m planning on doing a cycle as effective as possible and SARMS are kinda out of reach in my place so I don’t think that I can fit them in .

I’ve had experience with test , eq and Anadrol .

So my goal is to gain the greatest muscle I can in 4 months while keeping fat at minimum

Stats :
Age:29 Height: 6.1” , Weight: 205 lb at 15% BF

Currently i’m cutting to get 7-8% BF .
And after that I’ll reverse diet and start the cycle.

Test : 200-300 mgs
Deca : 800 mgs
Dbol/Tbol ?

Arimidex , Caber , Legalon and Milk thistle on hand

As far as I know the greatest mass builders are deca, dbol, anadrol ?

Anadrol? makes me very lethargic

Eq ? I haven’t seen anything from it and I ran it at 800mg

Test at 500mg alone or with Eq haven't had any sides out of them and even though I didn't need the AIs , ( No flushing , bloating , itchy nipples nor BP issues ) .


** I was recomping on both cycles , so there weren’t huge gains except from anadrol
** please spare me the more compounds limit your potential on further cycles .


- Any modification?
- Deca dick worries !
- running orals at less of a dosage for longer is better then more for shorter ?
- Another Injectable ?
- Long-term result guys ! ( Recovery from deca etc..

 

[Abdul99]

I know I’ve probably asked a lot and i apologize for that

 

[DylanGemelli]

your wanting to run 800 mg of fucking deca dude? thats just insane

 

[P0N]

I'd personally back the deca down to 500mg. I would also add 50mg of Proviron ed and 0.25mg caber e3d. This should prevent deca dick (I also add 20mg eod of cialis, but isn't strictly necessary), and have the added benefit of raising free testosterone. As far as adding other injectables, EQ is fine if you're so inclined. As far as orals like anadrol or dianabol in the beginning, that is really a matter of preference. You can run either (or both at half dose) for 4 weeks, but I would never push past 6 weeks. Just keep in mind if you run orals on the front side your myostatin levels will elevate sooner meaning you'll be making less gains on the back end of your cycle. Good luck and let is know how it goes.

 

[Abdul99]

your wanting to run 800 mg of fucking deca dude? thats just insane

Underground labs are always under dosed
I have no worries at all from deca except the deca dick which is unknown for the most part.. here comes the experienced guys such as yourself Dylan.. I still wanna know your opinion.

 

[DylanGemelli]

once again i have no clue what your talking about... ugls are not always underdosed at all... your kind of all over the place with things... i really dont know man... i will just say good luck with your cycle... deca dick only occurs with stupid dosing, like 800 mg of deca... like i said, good luck with the cycle

 

[cbbram00]

Test at 500mg alone or with Eq haven't had any sides out of them and even though I didn't need the AIs , ( No flushing , bloating , itchy nipples nor BP issues )

Is this how you determine the need or dosage for an AI or do you do blood work?

 

[Abdul99]

I'd personally back the deca down to 500mg. I would also add 50mg of Proviron ed and 0.25mg caber e3d. This should prevent deca dick (I also add 20mg eod of cialis, but isn't strictly necessary), and have the added benefit of raising free testosterone. As far as adding other injectables, EQ is fine if you're so inclined. As far as orals like anadrol or dianabol in the beginning, that is really a matter of preference. You can run either (or both at half dose) for 4 weeks, but I would never push past 6 weeks. Just keep in mind if you run orals on the front side your myostatin levels will elevate sooner meaning you'll be making less gains on the back end of your cycle. Good luck and let is know how it goes.

I wanna discuss that a little ..
I mentioned UGL Under dose everything and you probably know better
I like your opinion honestly ..
So far i’m settling with Test and Deca

Anadrol is devastating for me at 50mgs so probably not an option ..

Test/deca/Eq sounds good though

** DHT Derivatives cause me to shed hair badly so i’m trying to minimize them

Way to get around myostatin ? 4 weeks on 4 weeks off of Dbol? Or drop it for better gains ?

 

[Abdul99]

Is this how you determine the need or dosage for an AI or do you do blood work?

Both actually

 

[Abdul99]

once again i have no clue what your talking about... ugls are not always underdosed at all... your kind of all over the place with things... i really dont know man... i will just say good luck with your cycle... deca dick only occurs with stupid dosing, like 800 mg of deca... like i said, good luck with the cycle

Chill bro, this is why i’m here to ask.. what kind of dosage would be better in your opinion ?

 

[P0N]

I would dispute your assertion that most UGLs are underdosed. Most brands that stick around are tested time and again and prove that wrong (in fact Steroidify will pay the cost of your product and testing if you send your product out for independent 3rd party lab testing and post the tests publicly). Regarding inhibiting myostatin build up, that is the holy grail of body building. If we could mitigate that, there would be a lot of 400 pound monsters walking about. You will only be able to make so many gains in a single cycle unfortunately, and the use of orals just let's you get more of those gains on the front end of the cycle by giving up some gains later. So basically, it's just a matter of preference whether to use them or not. Sometimes I use them when I just want to start making progress fast, and sometimes I dont.

 

[Abdul99]

Sorry for asking a lot guys and thanks a lot in advance

 

[Abdul99]

I would dispute your assertion that most UGLs are underdosed. Most brands that stick around are tested time and again and prove that wrong (in fact Steroidify will pay the cost of your product and testing if you send your product out for independent 3rd party lab testing and post the tests publicly). Regarding inhibiting myostatin build up, that is the holy grail of body building. If we could mitigate that, there would be a lot of 400 pound monsters walking about. You will only be able to make so many gains in a single cycle unfortunately, and the use of orals just let's you get more of those gains on the front end of the cycle by giving up some gains later. So basically, it's just a matter of preference whether to use them or not. Sometimes I use them when I just want to start making progress fast, and sometimes I dont.

I wish if it was an option to get my hands on that though .. you’re very knowledgeable man !

Dosing wise for test/deca/eq ?

 

[P0N]

I wish if it was an option to get my hands on that though .. you’re very knowledgeable man !

Dosing wise for test/deca/eq ?

The dosing should be dialed in for what you respond best to, to be honest. How I personally dose that combination is test 400mg, deca 500mg, and EQ 500mg. The eq could stand to be higher to be honest, but there is only so much volume of gear I can stand to inject in myself.

 

[Abdul99]

The dosing should be dialed in for what you respond best to, to be honest. How I personally dose that combination is test 400mg, deca 500mg, and EQ 500mg. The eq could stand to be higher to be honest, but there is only so much volume of gear I can stand to inject in myself.

Something tells me you have just unfucked my cycle lol,, I’ll start in 4-6 weeks and I’ll tell you how it goes .. Thank you !

 

[P0N]

Something tells me you have just unfucked my cycle lol,, I’ll start in 4-6 weeks and I’ll tell you how it goes .. Thank you !

You're welcome, and definitely let us know how it goes.

 

[DylanGemelli]

300-350 each of test and deca is more than enough

 

[RickyPaul]

So this is my first post on here and I’ve been checking the forum on consistent basis and honestly it’s a great community and helpful knowledge and it’s great to read your experiences..

I’m planning on doing a cycle as effective as possible and SARMS are kinda out of reach in my place so I don’t think that I can fit them in .

I’ve had experience with test , eq and Anadrol .

So my goal is to gain the greatest muscle I can in 4 months while keeping fat at minimum

Stats :
Age:29 Height: 6.1” , Weight: 205 lb at 15% BF

Currently i’m cutting to get 7-8% BF .
And after that I’ll reverse diet and start the cycle.

Test : 200-300 mgs
Deca : 800 mgs
Dbol/Tbol ?

Arimidex , Caber , Legalon and Milk thistle on hand

As far as I know the greatest mass builders are deca, dbol, anadrol ?

Anadrol? makes me very lethargic

Eq ? I haven’t seen anything from it and I ran it at 800mg

Test at 500mg alone or with Eq haven't had any sides out of them and even though I didn't need the AIs , ( No flushing , bloating , itchy nipples nor BP issues ) .


** I was recomping on both cycles , so there weren’t huge gains except from anadrol
** please spare me the more compounds limit your potential on further cycles .


- Any modification?
- Deca dick worries !
- running orals at less of a dosage for longer is better then more for shorter ?
- Another Injectable ?
- Long-term result guys ! ( Recovery from deca etc..

Damn! 800 a week of deca? I am about to run NPP for the first time and I was worried about running 100mg every other day. That seems high AF.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Damn! 800 a week of deca? I am about to run NPP for the first time and I was worried about running 100mg every other day. That seems high AF.

Thats because it is. Its absolutely ridiculous

 

[cbbram00]

Damn! 800 a week of deca? I am about to run NPP for the first time and I was worried about running 100mg every other day. That seems high AF.

NPP 100mg eod is an ideal dosage.