Oral kickstart and finisher

[Cjohnson547]

Is it alright to kickstart a cycle with turinabol and finish with winstrol? Or is liver toxicity an issue? If so is it best to run the test a little longer like 14-16 weeks to have that break between?


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[DylanGemelli]

you can do that... you just need to have enough time gap there... if you run a 12 week cycle, you may want to only run tbol the first 4 weeks.. what is your experience with orals? how many cycles have you ran? what is your planned cycle now?

 

[RickRock]

Is it alright to kickstart a cycle with turinabol and finish with winstrol? Or is liver toxicity an issue? If so is it best to run the test a little longer like 14-16 weeks to have that break between?


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You can certainly do that, but just make sure you have at least a 4 week break in between orals.

Also make sure you are protecting yourself. I'd run organ ST with it https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st

 

[Cjohnson547]

you can do that... you just need to have enough time gap there... if you run a 12 week cycle, you may want to only run tbol the first 4 weeks.. what is your experience with orals? how many cycles have you ran? what is your planned cycle now?

I’ve kickstarted 3 cycles with winstrol. Ive ran 6 in total. 1&2 test only 3,4&5 test and winstrol 6 was test and tren but I stopped the tren early it was great but I couldn’t combat the sides. I love winstrol but wanted to try tbol. I don’t have my current cycle planned yet and that’s why I’m asking around. I was looking into maybe some EQ or primo. I will have all support supps on hand.


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[Cjohnson547]

I’m a little intrigued by EQ but the blood thickening thing concerns me a bit. Any way to combat it other than donating blood?


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[DylanGemelli]

donating blood is all you need to do and that would be perfect to run two orals because the cycle duration is longer...

 

[Cjohnson547]

donating blood is all you need to do and that would be perfect to run two orals because the cycle duration is longer...

I guess that’s what worries me not being able to get in to donate. What are your thoughts on Tbol I know you have been a big supporter of winny and I personally love it.


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[rockjocks]

Kickstarted my current cycle with tbol and I'm finishing with winny. Strength went way up and I've experienced a good recomp from it. Doing mid cycle bloods this week before starting winny. My winny is injectable btw. Most have said that there's a lot of pip. I took one 30mg shot just to test the waters before doing a bench comp at my gym and had no pip. That's even after deadlifting 460 the day before. Just my .02 and everyone is different. Rant tbol @ 50mg the first 2 weeks then ramped up to 75 the following 3 weeks. Pending bloods if everything is good then I'll take winny at 30mg no higher than 50mg last 4 weeks of my cycle.


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[Cjohnson547]

Kickstarted my current cycle with tbol and I'm finishing with winny. Strength went way up and I've experienced a good recomp from it. Doing mid cycle bloods this week before starting winny. My winny is injectable btw. Most have said that there's a lot of pip. I took one 30mg shot just to test the waters before doing a bench comp at my gym and had no pip. That's even after deadlifting 460 the day before. Just my .02 and everyone is different. Rant tbol @ 50mg the first 2 weeks then ramped up to 75 the following 3 weeks. Pending bloods if everything is good then I'll take winny at 30mg no higher than 50mg last 4 weeks of my cycle.


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What will the total length of your cycle be?


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[rockjocks]

14 weeks


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[DylanGemelli]

I really like tbol as well... not as much as winstrol but its definitely a nice addition