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    Question MY FIRST test only cycle! Advice please! :)

    Hey guys! Hoping to join in on the AAS train at some point. Here are the stats according to EZ_E's post. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated!

    Stats

    Age: 33;
    Height: 5-11 / 179cm
    Weight: 232lb / 105kg
    BF%: 10 (attached image showing a 24 point impedance measurement)

    Training

    History: 11 years gym with 2-3 month per year "off season"; 5 years military oriented training (recon) prior to that
    Currently: 5 days/wk resistance (high int low vol) + morning cardio/HIIT every day

    Macros

    250g protein, under 70g fat, 270g carbs, ~70g fibre / day (this isn't a "diet", it's just how I eat)
    currently supplementing with: glucosamine, vitamin D, ZMA, Cr-monohydrate

    Cycle history

    Finished 5 months ago: 12 wk SARMs cycle with MK-2866, MK-677, LGD-4033, GW-501516, RAD-140, S4 (from sarmsx);
    PCT 4wk: Clomid, GW-501516, MK-677
    Last 11 months: hGH (pharma) 2iu/day 2 months, 4iu/day 8 months, currently 1.5iu/day (I found out that's well beyond what I need)
    Note: got an Oxandrolone prescription post traffic accident injury - took 2.5mg tab daily for 3 weeks, did not have a PCT for this.

    Previous injuries
    2015 (traffic accident): Broken L elbow (hairline fracture), fractured L. wrist
    2007 (skydiving injury): Torn ACL (undergone complete reconstruction), Busted both kneecaps
    2004 (climbing injury): R. shoulder dislocation
    2001-2004: Blast injury, ricochet L. shoulder (removed in OR), hypothermic shock, cracked ribs 8-12 L. side.
    Currently no ROM limitations or chronic pain issues.

    Goals
    Slight recomposition. If I can reduce 1.0-1.5% bf I would be a happy camper, not looking to get bigger, not looking to get supa-dupa shredded. Mostly need some hands on experience to add to clinical experience.

    Planned cycle weeks 1-14
    Test-cyp 350mg/wk
    Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    GW-501516 20 mg/day
    MK-677 25mg/day
    hGH 1.5IU/day
    Cycle assist

    Planned PCT weeks 15-18
    *bridging to PCT with 3 weeks hCG 1000IU/wk
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    GW-501516 20 mg/day
    MK-677 25mg/day
    hGH 1.5IU/day
    Cycle assist

    I'm in no rush whatsoever to pull the trigger on this. Just collecting thoughts at the moment to consider advice and revise accordingly. I'm fine with putting this on the backburner for as long as needed.

    Questions
    1. I'm not interested in adding orals, would that be an issue?
    2. Would a PCT be useless without MK-2866, especially in light of my not trying to gain size here?
    3. Not interested in adding protein to my diet because I get big very quickly (limiting myself to 250g protein daily now) - is that a problem?

    THANK YOU!

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    Last edited by Blue_Shine; 11-18-2016 at 02:18 PM.

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    250 is enpugh protien but you may need too adjust carbs depending on activity and how you look if your flat have some fruit or rice your calories are kinda low for your stats. Rember over dieting will slow metabolism and excess cortisol from that as well will be your enemy . Other wise looks very good and if your really 10 percent at that weight and height you have built a really good natural base so your gonna blow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gymjunkie38 View Post
    250 is enpugh protien but you may need too adjust carbs depending on activity and how you look if your flat have some fruit or rice your calories are kinda low for your stats. Rember over dieting will slow metabolism and excess cortisol from that as well will be your enemy . Other wise looks very good and if your really 10 percent at that weight and height you have built a really good natural base so your gonna blow up.

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    I'm not on a "diet", this is simply how I eat. If I increase my calories I get big really quickly, and I'm not into getting my frame that much bigger. How much do you see a need to potentially increase carbs?

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    Based on how you look and feel . Its not all a mathmatical equation as everyone think too many variable watch your body if your flat or in a brain fog add some so your training doesnt suffer if your holding water back off a little . also you will be on gear now your used too that as a normal diet . Your metabolism will increase

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gymjunkie38 View Post
    Based on how you look and feel . Its not all a mathmatical equation as everyone think too many variable watch your body if your flat or in a brain fog add some so your training doesnt suffer if your holding water back off a little . also you will be on gear now your used too that as a normal diet . Your metabolism will increase

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    Makes sense. I suspect I can experiment with upping my carbs as the demand arises, should be a good learning experience

    THANKS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_Shine View Post
    Hey guys! Hoping to join in on the AAS train at some point. Here are the stats according to EZ_E's post. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated!

    Stats

    Age: 33;
    Height: 5-11 / 179cm
    Weight: 232lb / 105kg
    BF%: 10 (attached image showing a 24 point impedance measurement)

    Training

    History: 11 years gym with 2-3 month per year "off season"; 5 years military oriented training (recon) prior to that
    Currently: 5 days/wk resistance (high int low vol) + morning cardio/HIIT every day

    Macros

    250g protein, under 70g fat, 270g carbs, ~70g fibre / day (this isn't a "diet", it's just how I eat)
    currently supplementing with: glucosamine, vitamin D, ZMA, Cr-monohydrate

    Cycle history

    Finished 5 months ago: 12 wk SARMs cycle with MK-2866, MK-677, LGD-4033, GW-501516, RAD-140, S4 (from sarmsx);
    PCT 4wk: Clomid, GW-501516, MK-677
    Last 11 months: hGH (pharma) 2iu/day 2 months, 4iu/day 8 months, currently 1.5iu/day (I found out that's well beyond what I need)
    Note: got an Oxandrolone prescription post traffic accident injury - took 2.5mg tab daily for 3 weeks, did not have a PCT for this.

    Previous injuries
    2015 (traffic accident): Broken L elbow (hairline fracture), fractured L. wrist
    2007 (skydiving injury): Torn ACL (undergone complete reconstruction), Busted both kneecaps
    2004 (climbing injury): R. shoulder dislocation
    2001-2004: Blast injury, ricochet L. shoulder (removed in OR), hypothermic shock, cracked ribs 8-12 L. side.
    Currently no ROM limitations or chronic pain issues.

    Goals
    Slight recomposition. If I can reduce 1.0-1.5% bf I would be a happy camper, not looking to get bigger, not looking to get supa-dupa shredded. Mostly need some hands on experience to add to clinical experience.

    Planned cycle weeks 1-14
    Test-cyp 350mg/wk
    Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    GW-501516 20 mg/day
    MK-677 25mg/day
    hGH 1.5IU/day
    Cycle assist

    Planned PCT weeks 15-18
    *bridging to PCT with 3 weeks hCG 1000IU/wk
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    GW-501516 20 mg/day
    MK-677 25mg/day
    hGH 1.5IU/day
    Cycle assist

    I'm in no rush whatsoever to pull the trigger on this. Just collecting thoughts at the moment to consider advice and revise accordingly. I'm fine with putting this on the backburner for as long as needed.

    Questions
    1. I'm not interested in adding orals, would that be an issue?
    2. Would a PCT be useless without MK-2866, especially in light of my not trying to gain size here?
    3. Not interested in adding protein to my diet because I get big very quickly (limiting myself to 250g protein daily now) - is that a problem?

    THANK YOU!

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    hey brother... i like where you are going with this... im anxious to see how you like 677 with hgh... i have a feeling you are going to really love what you get from that, i just want to make sure you are on top of the possible water with 677... it should not last long if you get it but keep your eye close on your potassium intake and make sure you drink plenty of water... listen, you KNOW your body better than anyone and you know how food effects YOU personally... you DO NOT need to go over 250 grams of protein whatsoever if you do not like the way you gain weight from it... not in the least... i would keep your cars moderate... basically with your goals, i would have my intake at 50-55% protein, 25-30% carbs and 10-15% fats... that should suit you well... you DEFINITELY do not need orals here and you would not want multiple anabolics on a first cycle anyway so that is no concern.... you dont HAVE to use 2866 in pct... it helps to not only keep cortisol away but it also makes pct much more of a breeze with the workout enhancement it provides but since you have hgh and 677 in there as well as gw to control cortisol, you should be fine... its helps keep and maintain gains but your situation is different here... thats your call on that one... everything else looks damn good brother and you already know im here for you anytime you need me at pretty much anytime since you already know i dont know what sleep means.. LOL everything looks great bro... except for all your injury occurrences... be fucking careful man... no more skydiving bull shit! LOL =)





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    Quote Originally Posted by DylanGemelli View Post
    hey brother... i like where you are going with this... im anxious to see how you like 677 with hgh... i have a feeling you are going to really love what you get from that, i just want to make sure you are on top of the possible water with 677... it should not last long if you get it but keep your eye close on your potassium intake and make sure you drink plenty of water... listen, you KNOW your body better than anyone and you know how food effects YOU personally... you DO NOT need to go over 250 grams of protein whatsoever if you do not like the way you gain weight from it... not in the least... i would keep your cars moderate... basically with your goals, i would have my intake at 50-55% protein, 25-30% carbs and 10-15% fats... that should suit you well... you DEFINITELY do not need orals here and you would not want multiple anabolics on a first cycle anyway so that is no concern.... you dont HAVE to use 2866 in pct... it helps to not only keep cortisol away but it also makes pct much more of a breeze with the workout enhancement it provides but since you have hgh and 677 in there as well as gw to control cortisol, you should be fine... its helps keep and maintain gains but your situation is different here... thats your call on that one... everything else looks damn good brother and you already know im here for you anytime you need me at pretty much anytime since you already know i dont know what sleep means.. LOL everything looks great bro... except for all your injury occurrences... be fucking careful man... no more skydiving bull shit! LOL =)
    Thanks, Sensei! Check, check and check! I've got the points down and be sure to pay attention. I know where to find you if I got me some Qs

    MUCH APPRECIATED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_Shine View Post
    Thanks, Sensei! Check, check and check! I've got the points down and be sure to pay attention. I know where to find you if I got me some Qs

    MUCH APPRECIATED!
    LOLLL i know you do... anytime brother.. let me know but i can tell you that this cycle is going to be mean! you are going to have serious gains on this one...





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    This one just might be EZ_E approved...lol. Looks like you got all your ducks in a row brother. @ 5'11 232lbs you have a fucking hell of a frame and I'm very intrested to where this run takes you!! I'll definitely be following along. The questions/concerns...not a problem at all bro. Cycle looks awesome. Out of curiosity who's cyp and GH you using?

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