I generally ALWAYS only run major cutting orals, specifically winstrol, halotestin, proviron and anavar... In all this time I have honestly only implemented tbol on many of my clients... I have put a lot of time and study into it over the years as it has always been intriguing to me... My body responds rapidly and drastically to orals, even at a low dose... I generally run orals at half the normal sweet spot and find i get the same type of gains without the sides... This does not work for everyone but my body just eats them up for some reason... I decided to use Tbol this run at half the dose and stack it with winstrol and half the dose, so 30 mg of tbol and 25 mg of winstrol... Generally, I feel pretty nice on winstrol but adding tbol to this is something else... I am eating at a pretty good deficit coupled with extreme amounts of cardio and yet my strength increase has been phenomenal and I am still adding size rapidly and it is so clean and dry... I feel excellent with tbol, which was to be expected as that gnerally occurs with use... I have always advocated it's use as I have seen how much it can do first hand on MANY occasions and I am extremely pleased to see it work as I knew it would. I was already a big believer in it and that has only been enhanced... It is definitely at the top of my list...