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    How toxic is msten?

    Iím not interested in pro hormones, but a friend is. Heís only cycled Ostarine for a first and lgd for a second, and wants to jump straight to msten. I already told him heís insane, but whatever, his life, he does what he wants and always regrets it later.
    So is msten more toxic than anadrol or halo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christmas View Post
    Iím not interested in pro hormones, but a friend is. Heís only cycled Ostarine for a first and lgd for a second, and wants to jump straight to msten. I already told him heís insane, but whatever, his life, he does what he wants and always regrets it later.
    So is msten more toxic than anadrol or halo?
    Absolutely, it gave me liver disease. If heís planning on running that without test heís going to have a REALLY bad ride. Thatís exactly the recipe that permanently fucked my testosterone levels at 20 years old. I would slap him through the screen if I could for being this stupid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Diesel View Post
    Absolutely, it gave me liver disease. If he’s planning on running that without test he’s going to have a REALLY bad ride. That’s exactly the recipe that permanently fucked my testosterone levels at 20 years old. I would slap him through the screen if I could for being this stupid.


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    Similar feelings here. He’s 36. This was him after showing him a research article on someone who got permanent liver damage from using it. Apparently he read how strong it was, and believes if he can handle lgd, he can handle anything else too.
    He¬ís planning on running it alone for 4 weeks, with Tudca, nolvadex, Clomid, and Arimidex as PCT, though if he likes the results, I think it¬ís likely he¬íll extend that. He¬íll likely continue his 2 drinks/day for ¬ďcalories¬Ē while on it too.
    His goal is ¬ďget me to where I want to be.¬Ē He¬ís a skinny guy, so this is him trying to shortcut. I originally got him on Ostarine for his arthritis, but he got so obsessed with people¬ís praise on his body composition changes that he¬ís walking the plank to get more of it. I really hope he doesn¬ít end up in the ER.

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    Do you remember what your alt and als values were?
    And would having 2 drinks/day make the results that much worse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christmas View Post
    would having 2 drinks/day make the results that much worse?

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    Iíve never had alcohol before nor care to start, so I donít know how detrimental it is for people cycling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Christmas View Post
    Do you remember what your alt and als values were?
    And would having 2 drinks/day make the results that much worse?
    I’ve never had bloods done on Msten but it’s pretty harsh. I wouldn’t recommend it and I don’t think the juice is worth the squeeze with it. There’s def no way I’d run it without some great on cycle supports and I def wouldn’t be drinking alcohol with it
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    i hope the comment about drinking on msten was a poor joke... it is VERY harsh... there's not too many things out htere that are worse... there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to use it whatsoever

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    Oh man I have tons of experience with Msten and many other orals similar to it. I will say this, the size gain is very good, Iím a great responder to it. Iíve done 2 or 3 cycles of it (years ago) great stuff for size but itís very harsh on your liver. Not sure if more toxic then anadrol but I have no desire to touch either again let alone any orals. Wouldnít do it man. I had blood pressure issues on it as well. Slow steady gains are much more keepable. Packing on 30 pounds in 4 weeks is toxic and hard on the body. Heíll hold a good amount of water on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboGainz View Post
    Oh man I have tons of experience with Msten and many other orals similar to it. I will say this, the size gain is very good, Iím a great responder to it. Iíve done 2 or 3 cycles of it (years ago) great stuff for size but itís very harsh on your liver. Not sure if more toxic then anadrol but I have no desire to touch either again let alone any orals. Wouldnít do it man. I had blood pressure issues on it as well. Slow steady gains are much more keepable. Packing on 30 pounds in 4 weeks is toxic and hard on the body. Heíll hold a good amount of water on it.
    I hate holding water


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