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First Cycle Advice

Bigblack2

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Hey guys,

I am currently looking into starting my first cycle and am seeking a little guidance on a good beginner cycle.
I am currently thinking of taking a Tbol only, 40mg ED for 6 weeks. I also was thinking of pairing S4 for 6 weeks with it at 50mg ED. With Nolvidex as a PCT for weeks 7-10. What do you guys think of this cycle. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Stats
26 yrs old
5’7
182 pounds
8% bodyfat
Looking to add another solid 15-20 pounds of muscle over the next 12 weeks, before cutting down
8 yrs training experience
 
You are not going to find anyone advising you to use oral only for your cycle on this forum, at least its highly unlikely... you can do it but im not going to advise that either... its not a very wise thing to do... your first cycle should be test only... your pct is quite weak and makes not much sense either... i can give you a layout if you like but im not advising oral only cycles
 
Thanks Dylan for your response and advice! I just watched your video on why an oral only cycle is pointless and it makes perfect sense now. What layout would you recommend for a beginners cycle?
 
you need to be more realistic first bro.. you are not going to gain 20 lbs unless you are severely undersized, which you clearly are not... so you need to understand that first... thats not even reasonable unless you are using dbol or anadrol but you wouldnt on a first cycle and even then, you should not expect to keep it either...
 
Understandable, On a test only cycle how much weight could I gain and realistically keep considering I post cycle right?
 
I honestly don't know if it is at all feasible to gain 15-20 lbs of 'solid" muscle in 12 weeks. I might be wrong, and Dylan is the man when it comes down to recommendations. A (friendly) word of caution though. We are human beings and have limitations as such. Go slow and steady. Take your time, don't overload your system with chemicals and protein thinking that you can accelerate natural protein synthesis and muscle growth exponentially without hurting yourself. Good luck
 
I honestly don't know if it is at all feasible to gain 15-20 lbs of 'solid" muscle in 12 weeks. I might be wrong, and Dylan is the man when it comes down to recommendations. A (friendly) word of caution though. We are human beings and have limitations as such. Go slow and steady. Take your time, don't overload your system with chemicals and protein thinking that you can accelerate natural protein synthesis and muscle growth exponentially without hurting yourself. Good luck

Thanks for the advice bro! Definitely will take this first cycle slow
 
1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
11-14 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/

pct 15-20


when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
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