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Thread: Deca, Test E, Winstrol cycle.

  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by DylanGemelli View Post
    heres the layout i would go with.. your test and deca are too high man... there's no reason for that whatsoever...


    1-14 test e 300 mg week
    1-14 deca 350 mg week
    1-16 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    1-14 caber .25 mg e3d
    11-16 winstrol
    11-16 dga organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
    13-16 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/


    pct 17-22

    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





    clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
    nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
    aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
    ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
    mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
    gw-501516 20 mg day
    Hi Dylan.

    Thank you for your response.
    Ok I will lower the test and deca dosage to what you reccomend
    I would be stupid to argue with you as I know you know a lot more on the subject.
    Whats your thoughts on swapping the deca out for NPP? same dosage? and also adding Proviron for the weeks 1-14 50mg ED? Like 70Jd recommended.
    I will do that PCT also.
    also do you think that there is no need what so ever for HCG?
    I didnt need it last time whatsoever but in some of your articles you say that it definitely has its place.
    Thank you very much for your help Dylan and also the other guys as well.

  2. #12
    already answered all this in your pm man





  3. #13
    Hi Dylan.
    yes I sent this before I sent you the PM.
    Thank you very much for all your help.
    I will put in an order soon
    And I will let you know how it all goes.

  4. #14
    no problem, yes, let me know





  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Walker View Post
    yes you're dead right about the diet usually I am under 10% and I was for the last two cycles and i will clean up the diet when I go back on.
    I didnt need Caber last time but I will be sure to have it on hand.
    I will probably just take it to be safe.
    Cheers for the advice mate.

    Anytime bro and thanks for not getting offended by the diet comment. Haha. Too many people take things to heart and view comments like that as an attack. I try and take a truly helpful approach with any comments I make and sometimes that means saying things people might not want to hear.
    Bodybuilder and anabolic enthusiast

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by mastermolnar View Post
    Anytime bro and thanks for not getting offended by the diet comment. Haha. Too many people take things to heart and view comments like that as an attack. I try and take a truly helpful approach with any comments I make and sometimes that means saying things people might not want to hear.
    NA mate thats how it should be say it as it is never beat around the bush.
    I have been traveling most of the year and have been away from the gym so have just been doing cardio and the diet has been very relaxed.
    Im back into a routine now and intend to start in about one month.
    I definitely get frustrated when people do cycles like this and hardly gym and eat terribly and wonder why they don't get good results.
    Cheers everyone for your help.

  7. #17
    happy to help bro





  8. #18
    Hi Dylan
    Im about to put in an order in for me and a friend for 6 Post CT and 4 Organ ST.
    is there a discount code I can put in?
    I saw one in a forum the other day but cant find it.
    If not then no worries I will put the order in tomorrow.

    Thanks.

  9. #19
    hey brother, theres no codes... all the deals are actually listed right on the site's homepage and you can pick them from there





  10. #20
    Ok Thanks Dylan.
    Thought I would try my luck for any other discount haha.

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