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    Next Cycle Critique Please

    Hey Everyone!

    It's been a while since my last cycle (18 months), so I'm looking to run one in the coming months. Any feedback would be much appreciated.

    I'm a 43 year old male, have been actively lifting for the better part of seventeen years, and have done upwards of 10 cycles in my life. Due to my career, I'm not looking for 'drastic' results and would like to keep all the 'visible' sides to a minimum. That being said, I'm not interested in using Tren or Mast, but might be willing to give oral Winny a try. I'm looking for a little more lean muscle, a little less BF and a more hardened look when the cycle is done. I'm currently 5'10" and weigh 186lbs at 11% BF (7-site caliper measurement). My last/most recent cycle consisted of Test E, EQ, Tbol, HGH (six months), S4, GW510516, MK2866, Aromasin and Cycle Assist, as well as PCT. My main question is regarding the Tbol vs Winny. Should I run Tbol the first and last 6 weeks of the cycle, or substitute Winny in for the last 4-6 weeks? This is what I was thinking...thoughts?

    Weeks 01-16: Equipoise (800mg/week)
    Weeks 01-16: Test Enanthate (500mg/week)
    Weeks 01-06: Turinabol (50mg/day)
    Weeks 01-06: Cycle Assist
    Weeks 01-12: S4 (50/mg day - split doses)
    Weeks 01-12: GW510516 (20/mg day, dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout)
    Weeks 01-12: MK2866 (25/mg day dosed once in the morning)
    Weeks 01-18: Aromasin (12.5mg EOD)
    Weeks 11-16: Winstrol (50 mg/day) OR Weeks 13-16 Winstrol (50 mg/day)
    Weeks 11-16: Cycle Assist OR Weeks 13-16: Cycle Assist

    PCT
    Week 19: Nolvadex 40mg/day, Clomid 50mg/day, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD, MK2866 25 mg/day, GW501516 20 mg/day
    Week 20: Nolvadex 20mg/day, Clomid 50mg/day, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD, MK2866 25 mg/day, GW501516 20 mg/day
    Week 21: Nolvadex 20mg/day, Clomid 25mg/day, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD, MK2866 25 mg/day, GW501516 20 mg/day
    Week 22: Nolvadex 20mg/day, Clomid 25mg/day, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD, MK2866 25 mg/day, GW501516 20 mg/day

    Thanks in advance for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barracuda View Post
    Hey Everyone!

    It's been a while since my last cycle (18 months), so I'm looking to run one in the coming months. Any feedback would be much appreciated.

    I'm a 43 year old male, have been actively lifting for the better part of seventeen years, and have done upwards of 10 cycles in my life. Due to my career, I'm not looking for 'drastic' results and would like to keep all the 'visible' sides to a minimum. That being said, I'm not interested in using Tren or Mast, but might be willing to give oral Winny a try. I'm looking for a little more lean muscle, a little less BF and a more hardened look when the cycle is done. I'm currently 5'10" and weigh 186lbs at 11% BF (7-site caliper measurement). My last/most recent cycle consisted of Test E, EQ, Tbol, HGH (six months), S4, GW510516, MK2866, Aromasin and Cycle Assist, as well as PCT. My main question is regarding the Tbol vs Winny. Should I run Tbol the first and last 6 weeks of the cycle, or substitute Winny in for the last 4-6 weeks? This is what I was thinking...thoughts?

    Weeks 01-16: Equipoise (800mg/week)
    Weeks 01-16: Test Enanthate (500mg/week)
    Weeks 01-06: Turinabol (50mg/day)
    Weeks 01-06: Cycle Assist
    Weeks 01-12: S4 (50/mg day - split doses)
    Weeks 01-12: GW510516 (20/mg day, dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout)
    Weeks 01-12: MK2866 (25/mg day dosed once in the morning)
    Weeks 01-18: Aromasin (12.5mg EOD)
    Weeks 11-16: Winstrol (50 mg/day) OR Weeks 13-16 Winstrol (50 mg/day)
    Weeks 11-16: Cycle Assist OR Weeks 13-16: Cycle Assist

    PCT
    Week 19: Nolvadex 40mg/day, Clomid 50mg/day, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD, MK2866 25 mg/day, GW501516 20 mg/day
    Week 20: Nolvadex 20mg/day, Clomid 50mg/day, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD, MK2866 25 mg/day, GW501516 20 mg/day
    Week 21: Nolvadex 20mg/day, Clomid 25mg/day, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD, MK2866 25 mg/day, GW501516 20 mg/day
    Week 22: Nolvadex 20mg/day, Clomid 25mg/day, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD, MK2866 25 mg/day, GW501516 20 mg/day

    Thanks in advance for your help!
    The Tbol is good where you have it, I would run the winny the last 6 weeks @50mg. Looks like a good cycle, you will be pretty shut down from a 16 week cycle. Maybe consider doing an extended pct for 6 weeks. Bump the clomid 100/100/50/50/25/25

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    here's how i would do it... i'll make it much very easy to follow...

    1-16 test e 500 mg week
    1-16 eq 600-800 mg week
    1-18 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    1-6 tbol 60 mg day
    1-6 dga organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
    13-18 winstrol 50 mg day
    13-18 dga organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
    15-18 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct


    pct 19-24

    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





    clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
    nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
    aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
    mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
    gw-501516 20 mg day





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    Thanks a bunch..much appreciated!

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    anytime bro





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