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    Complications during cycle gyno or reaction

    Sudden Gyno Help! Follow up post
    Hi Guys. Appreciate the help and appologize for long entry and if it's paranoia.

    I posted a day or two ago about my right armpit and pec suddenly getting swollen with armpit pain the night of getting a Flu shot. However it started to appear to be a gyno flare up after the Dr was adamant that this wasn't flu shot related (a medical centre DR) and sent me for a ultra sound. I didnt have any of these concerns except slight sensitivity before which I was keeping a eye on.

    Ultra sound results today have told me that there is definate swelling (armpit/pec) but the right breast tissue is "more prominent" the left is apparently 100% normal. The Dr says wait two weeks for a another Ultra sound to determine if the swelling is responsible or if it's gyno for the tissue. I've used nuerofen as suggested to combat swelling which has diminished it alot

    I'm in Week 5 of
    300mg Test E 300mg Tren A
    0.25 adex E3D with test pins.

    after the ultra sound and bloods were taken I've increased to 0.25 ED for about a week incase it was gyno but i've felt a bit tired and joints got a bit creaky but nothing terrible.

    I have adex, aromasin, novla and clomid, and I'm looking into geting some letro if needed. Where I am (AU) I can't get anti prolactin like caber or prami (I tried) but I have P5P coming in a few days and have vitex for what it's worth.

    TLDR
    I don't know if I should ACT on this Maybe gyno, is it gyno or swelling: Dr doesn't know if it's gyno/swelling or what so i'm to go back in 2 weeks to re do the ultra sound. I can feel a slight tissue like under the nipple far back that maybe is marginally bigger than sams thing on the left pec (which was cleared by ultra sound) and nipple pain sensitivity is a 3/10 to the touch it feels the same as the left but swollen the lump isnt directly under nipple it's to the right side by a few mm. I'll post my Bloods and maybe from that we can determine the likelyhood of what it is.

    Pre cycle Bloods taken during heavy cut phase,

    Total test: 13 nmol/L (8.3 - 29)
    Sex hormone Binding golbulin: 37nmol/L (11-71)
    Calculated Free test: 238 Pmol/L (255-725)

    FSH: IU/L 14 Ref Range < 7
    LH: IU/L 3.0 Ref Range < 7
    Oest2: Pmol/L 71 Ref Range (150)

    Thyroid
    TSH: 4.5 mIU/L (0.5 -4.0)
    FT4: 15 Pmol/L (10-20)
    This is noted as slightly low TSH and thyroid function in text below results.

    Liver - mmol/L
    AST: 34 mmol/L
    ALT: 46 mmol/L
    HDL: 1.1 mmol/L
    LDL: 3.5 mmol/L
    Non HDL Chol: 3.9 mmol/L
    Cholesterol / HDL-C Ratio: 4.5 mmol/L

    On Cycle Bloods Morning After Pin.

    Total Testosterone (Centaur) 39 nmol/L (8.3-29)
    Sex Hormone Binding Globulin 8 nmol/L (11-71)
    Calculated Free Testosterone 1382 pmol/L (225-725)

    FSH: IU/L <1 Ref Range <7
    LH: IU/L <0.1 Ref Range <7
    OEST2: Pmol/L 289 Ref Range (150)
    Prolactin: mIU/L 122 Ref Range (40-450)

    Thyroid
    Didn’t get it re- checked giving a month then redoing.

    Liver
    AST: 59 mmol/L
    ALT: 72 mmol/L
    HDL: 0.6 mmol/L
    LDL: 4.0 mmol/L
    Non HDL Chol: 4.4 mmol/L
    Cholesterol / HDL-C Ratio: 8.3 mmol/L

    Thanks Guys can answer anything I left out, if bits dont make sense i apologize been a bit panicked and have had poor sleep for 5 days.

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    do you have pre cycle estradiol levels and are you getting it checked now? that's the only way to accurately tell what exactly is going on and its necessary to have a baseline to compare it to....

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    Where is your reference ranges?

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    Hi

    Pre cycle blooods above show.

    Oest2: 71 pmol
    with ref range below 150 pmol

    On cycle:

    Oest2: 289 pmol
    With refrange below 150 pmol

    Prolactin on cycle 122 mIU/L with ref range 40 to 450 mIU/L.

    Test is also listed above.
    Test to estrogen ratio went from 3.7 to like 4.7 but that was on 0.25 adex e3.5d im now on 0.25 ed with 20mg nolva ed.

    The lumps arnt behind the nipple more to the bottom right near edge of pec beyound circumfrence of aeriola.

    Thank you for reply watch all the videos
    Hence your advice on 300mg of tren and 300mg of test weekly being more that sufficient!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banterweight View Post
    Hi

    Pre cycle blooods above show.

    Oest2: 71 pmol
    with ref range below 150 pmol

    On cycle:

    Oest2: 289 pmol
    With refrange below 150 pmol

    Prolactin on cycle 122 mIU/L with ref range 40 to 450 mIU/L.

    Test is also listed above.
    Test to estrogen ratio went from 3.7 to like 4.7 but that was on 0.25 adex e3.5d im now on 0.25 ed with 20mg nolva ed.

    The lumps arnt behind the nipple more to the bottom right near edge of pec beyound circumfrence of aeriola.

    Thank you for reply watch all the videos
    Hence your advice on 300mg of tren and 300mg of test weekly being more that sufficient!
    thats a drastic increase and i hate arimidex bro... are you sure you have legit arimidex and why use arimidex over aromasin? have you had estrogen issues in the past?

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    No, I have aromasin and letro also plus I take nolva 20mg a day.

    Adex may be bullshit.

    Any recomendation for aromasin dosage. I've dropped my test back to 150mg weekly where i had no issue before.

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    If you're taking nolva ED, you should be seeing improvement if it's primary gyno.

    I don't know why you're taking such a low dose of adex e3d. That could be an issue unless I've misread or understood something.

    Aromasin is typically 12.5mg EOD. If you're experiencing estro issues you can hit it hard with 25mg for a few days to a week and drop to 12.5 EOD.

    Get estradiol levels tested.

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    Adex was 0.25 ed, Im going to get asin.

    Ive droped my test back to trt 150mg so would 12.5 asin twice a week with 75mg test be ok.

    Do i just jump straight of adex to asin and how long do I run novla for now?

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    here is the link for aromasin... https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

    i would run it 25 every other day for two weeks then drop it to 12.5 mg eod... you seem to want to under dose it but that's not the right way to go about this... trust me, your not going to crush your estrogen with the range it is at now...

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