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Thread: Going from SARMS to First Test only cycle. Have a few questions if you can assist.

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    Going from SARMS to First Test only cycle. Have a few questions if you can assist.

    Sarms user for 2 years and gonna start pinning

    I am leaning towards a 500 MG Testosterone Enanthate split weekly into 2 250 mg injections

    Ok now regarding AI ... I am looking for advice on this as I see many different opinions on it <----

    And for PCT I was going to use Nolvadex .


    Ok now dont flame me too hard lolll

    Opnions on it overall?> Suggestions?

    AI suggestions?

    Thanks in advance guys

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    500mg test per week is a pretty standard first cycle and I have no issues with it. With the AI, I would run aromasin from the start to avoid estrogen related sides. Get blood work mid-cycle so you can adjust the AI dose up or down. As for PCT, nolva only is awful man. Please read this and follow exactly:

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    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well? N2Guard plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There?s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on?N2Guard helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.






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    I def wouldn?t go any higher then 500 Test. Since your new to pinning I would suggest using insulin needles believe me makes a huge difference!! I only use insulin needles for the past few years. I like pinning 3 times a week I find it?s easier to control estrogen by keeping your levels more stable but twice a week isn?t bad if that?s what u want to do. I actually havnt gone higher then 300 test in years and don?t see the need to really go higher then that I get great results and keep the water weight and sides down to a minimum. That?s just my two cents.

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    i think the guys above covered it all. i would be curious to hear your transition from sarms to test at a moderate dose cycle and what you liked and didn't like so followup


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    Personally id go 350-400mg/week.

    I was waaaaaay happier running that level dose. When I went to 500mg/week and even 600mg/week and to be honest I looked drier (obviously!) and acne was able to keep in check at the lower dose but 500-600mg/week I started breaking out like crazy.

    AI hands down for me its aromasin. Id start at 10mg/eod and adjust from there based on week 5 bloods.

    PCT you can run just nolva if you want. Id run it 40/40/40/20/20/20 over a 6 week PCT plus you need to taper off your AI, dont just drop it once you stop pinning as you will still have test in your system aromatizing.

    Id also add N2Generate ES.

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    Also personally ive enjoyed running sarms cycles more so than AAS cycles. I will still do 1 AAS cycle every 12-24 months and do a full PCT but in between that time its only sarms and when I do run an AAS cycle its always low dose test (200-250mg/week) plus another compound (oral like tbol or another injectable like primo).

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesmi View Post
    i think the guys above covered it all. i would be curious to hear your transition from sarms to test at a moderate dose cycle and what you liked and didn't like so followup
    Yes I?m always curious to hear how guys like the transition. Some love it and some don?t. I was hooked from the first pin haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUCingdsgainz View Post
    Yes I?m always curious to hear how guys like the transition. Some love it and some don?t. I was hooked from the first pin haha
    Yea for me I dont run stand alone test cycles anymore so I cant get away with pinning once a week with Test Cyp.

    It then becomes 3 pins a week and with a young family and work its just a pain in the ass (literally!).

    If I were single or didnt have kids yea it would be much easier and less of a hassle but now im just fucking old and dont have the time or patience lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by awm View Post
    Yea for me I dont run stand alone test cycles anymore so I cant get away with pinning once a week with Test Cyp.

    It then becomes 3 pins a week and with a young family and work its just a pain in the ass (literally!).

    If I were single or didnt have kids yea it would be much easier and less of a hassle but now im just fucking old and dont have the time or patience lol!
    i just hate fucking pinning and the older i get the far far far less i want to deal with any sort of side effects... everything goes when you get a bit older, patience, looks, etc. LOLLLL seriously though, you do learn that you can run far less and still get tremendous results... often times we get caught up into thinking we need 10 compounds and crazy doses... most of us have all done it at some point or another, even KNOWING and PREACHING better, we still tend to do things... some just learn far quicker than others do!




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