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  1. #1

    44 Year Old - First Cycle Looking for Advice

    Hi Everyone.

    This site has been super helpful in learning about SARMS. I'm so glad I found this forum before making any purchases. I was about to pull the trigger on some things from EA...and I would have regretted it based upon the experts I'm reading here at iSARMS. Thanks again for saving me!!

    Anyway, here are my questions:

    1. I've never performed any type of cycle. Now that I'm in my mid-forties and probably have low T (will know today or tomorrow), I'm ready to make some changes. I train regularly, so I'm in shape - but lower strength than in the past. I've read about all of the various SARMS - but confused as to which one to take for my first cycle, and whether or not I should stack my first cycle. I'm open to either - as I'm in this for the long-haul. What would be the recommended first cycle? I'm leaning towards S4+LGD+? for 12 weeks, followed by mini PCT.
    2. I feel that a "recomp" is my target - as I want to add 8-10lbs of lean muscle, while also leaning up. My gut around the belly button is worse spot - but I can see my abs at the top..but since I carry 15% BF, I could benefit from some fat metabolism. Does a "recomp" sound like the right approach? Or should I do a bulk, followed by a cut cycle?
    3. I'm eating very clean - but probably need more calories to make the gains - but haven't increased because I tend to just gain fat. With the right cycle, I would up by 500 calories/day. Does this sound right?
    4. Is it okay to continue the Intermittent fasting (16x8 protocol) and push all my calories in between 12pm - 8pm? Or will this impact my results?
    5. For the SARMS cycles, may of the recommended doses start in the morning - if I'm stacking, is it okay to take one after the other - or wait in between? Any issues with this?
    6. Based on everything I have told you, is there anything I haven't asked that I should be asking?

    Thanks again! This site is invaluable!!


    About Me:
    Age - 44 (almost 45)
    Sex - Male
    Height - 5'11"
    Weight - 175lbs
    Body fat % - 14-15% (wish to be about 10-12%)
    Years of training - ~30 years (consistently for last 5 years except for last year due to some nagging injuries- see below). Ready to make gains gain!
    Complete cycle history - No past cycles
    PCT for each cycle - N/A
    Goals - Would like to get to 180-185lbs at 10-12% BF and maintain. Not looking for super bulk, but want clean lean gains in size and leanness, plus strength.
    Supplements - Omega 3's, multivitamins, Vitamin D3, Combat Protein post-workout.
    General idea of nutrition - I eat super clean (recently stopped alcohol completely - which used to be just on weekends anyway); I do 16x8 intermittent fasting; Mostly protein, Low Carb, higher fats)
    Any other relevant info - In my mid-twenties did heavy lifting and reached 205lbs and 18-20% BF naturally; Used to bench 315lbs and squat 405). In mid-thirties, started BJJ and Crossfit, and leaned up to 175lb at 15% BF; Over last year+, been training off/on with less CF and BJJ due to constant nagging injuries - thinking it's low T (getting results in the next day or two). Now I can bench 205lb max and squat 260lbs, and DL 240lbs - which is alot of strength loss in last few years due to type of training.

  2. #2
    Hi Dylan,

    Here is what I'm thinking for my first cycle (based upon the above).
    Questions:
    1. Which one is better for me?
    2. Is MK-2866 @ 25mg per day during PCT needed?
    3. What are the benefits of having MK-2866 in my 12-week cycle in the first place?

    Option 1:
    Re-Comp Cycle (per your Youtube Video)

    * 1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
    * 1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
    * 5-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
    * 5-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

    Mini PCT 13-16 - https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

    * clomid 50/25/25/25
    * gw-501516 20 mg day


    OR

    Option 2:
    RAD140+S4 Cycle:


    * 1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
    * 1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
    * 1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
    * 9-12 tongkat ali (https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Science-.../dp/B009NAO9A0)


    Mini pct 13-16

    * clomid 50/25/25/25
    * gw-501516 20 mg day

    Thanks.
    B

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by beastmode45 View Post
    Hi Dylan,

    Here is what I'm thinking for my first cycle (based upon the above).
    Questions:
    1. Which one is better for me?
    2. Is MK-2866 @ 25mg per day during PCT needed?
    3. What are the benefits of having MK-2866 in my 12-week cycle in the first place?

    Option 1:
    Re-Comp Cycle (per your Youtube Video)

    * 1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
    * 1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
    * 5-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
    * 5-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

    Mini PCT 13-16 - https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

    * clomid 50/25/25/25
    * gw-501516 20 mg day


    OR

    Option 2:
    RAD140+S4 Cycle:


    * 1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
    * 1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
    * 1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
    * 9-12 tongkat ali (https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Science-.../dp/B009NAO9A0)


    Mini pct 13-16

    * clomid 50/25/25/25
    * gw-501516 20 mg day

    Thanks.
    B
    hey bro... i have a better stack for you to meet your goals than any you have listed.. mk2866 is not necessary in a sarms pct.. gw501516 is all you need with clomid to control cortisol... benefits of 2866 ? seriously? strength, lean muscle, healing, energy, feelings of huge well being... its only the most versatile of all sarms you can use and probably the top seller aside from GW...

    i dont have it in the cycle i recommend though based on your goals... here are the links to purchase everything you need followed by the layout...

    https://www.sarmsx.com/30-off

    https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?rou...product_id=138

    1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
    1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg per day dosed once a day in the a.m.
    1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
    1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
    9-12 tongkat ali


    Mini pct 13-16




    clomid 50/25/25/25
    gw-501516 20 mg day




  4. #4
    Hi Dylan.

    Thanks for the reply. Make sense. I noticed you put the GW for weeks 1-12 vs weeks 5-12. What is your thinking there? Better fat metabolism throughout? Also, so I would need 4 bottles of the GW to do this stack - right?

    Thanks.
    B

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by beastmode45 View Post
    Hi Dylan.

    Thanks for the reply. Make sense. I noticed you put the GW for weeks 1-12 vs weeks 5-12. What is your thinking there? Better fat metabolism throughout? Also, so I would need 4 bottles of the GW to do this stack - right?

    Thanks.
    B
    eight weeks of ANY sarm is too short... they take 8 weeks to really peak... it makes no sense to discontinue using something when its peaking bro... yes, 4 bottles of gw is exactly what you need...




  6. #6
    Got it. Buying it now! Thanks bro!!!

    Last question...any issue transporting these in checked luggage? I have a vacation planned in mid-june - 2 weeks before end of cycle and will continue while traveling.

    B

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by beastmode45 View Post
    Got it. Buying it now! Thanks bro!!!

    Last question...any issue transporting these in checked luggage? I have a vacation planned in mid-june - 2 weeks before end of cycle and will continue while traveling.

    B
    Im happy to help bro and there is no issue with having them on checked bags




  8. #8
    I'd still run ostarine during cycle, its my next favorite to Gw.

    In fact, my last cycle I ran 4 weeks of ostarine as a kick start to Dylans cycle, and felt the kick start really helped.(kept running it 12 weeks)

  9. #9
    Thanks Dylan! Thanks JP. I will consider it on my next cycle. I'm out of cash now LOL. I've heard great things about Ostarine! Will keep you posted on my progress.

  10. #10
    Oh, one other thing, if you think you have low T, you should take clomid during the cycle as a t boost ( Also take tongkat Ali). I have to, not because of initial low t, but on any cycle I get severely suppressed. And this cycle is about as suppressive as it gets. If you wait, it'll take about 2 weeks for the clomid to kick in.

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