thanks for all the replies, i've seen a log of somebody whose lifts went up a serious amount in a 6 week period of an msten only cycle but i'm not sure how he got on after his pct so fuck knows how he ended up.. i have powerdrol 10 and its supposed to be some potent shit but i wont take it if it's not worthwhile. i'm not bothered pinning at this stage anyway but is there no oral only compound or combination of orals that would give me good results without too many side effects? turinabol seems harmless enough any thoughts on that? and i probably wouldn't mind a cycle of test in the future but how many weeks of a cycle would you recommend to be ran for someone to keep the most muscle out of a cycle because if i'm jabbing a needle in my arse i may get some good permanent muscle from it haha. i'm just after moving into a new place with a new person so i cant be messing with needles or anything at the minute so thats why im so inclined for an oral compound with some real results. my main goals are strength so if yous have any experience with a good strength boosting compound or cycle you've ran id love to know what peoples recommendations are? thanks lads