Thank you for your reply. What has been your most effective cycle for cutting? Where would I even get stuff if i am interested? I am looking to get that dry hard look. I can send u a pic of where i am right now but idk how to send it on here. My stats are 5 ' 7 155 lbs with about 12% bf. My diet is very clean (seriously - no bs) and i train 5-6 x per week with 30-40 mins of cardio. Only about 15 of which is HIT. Thanks again for help.